No more disk drive serial number in disk utility

Used to be in "Disk Utility" when you clicked on the

hardware disk (not the software partition) you would

get a screenful of information that included the serial

number of the disk.


I have always used the last 4 digits of that number to

id the disk partition since it is so easy to mix up if you

have a lot of external drives connected to your system.

So nice to put a label on the front of the disk and see

the number so you are 100% sure what disk you are

working with.


Since I got everything configured how I like it, I have not

used the "Disk Utility" much, and now it is totally changed.

Version 15.0 under OS X El Capitan.


You cannot resize the window so a lot of text information

is not missing - AND the serial number of the selected

disk seems to be no longer available.


Is there a screen, right-click, menu item or something I

have missed of is this just another thing that OS X used

to do that is a removed feature?


If this is the case, is there a reason for this? It is really

nice to be able to read the S/N of a disk without unhooking

it, removing it from its perch, getting my reading glasses and

magnifying glass and writing it down from the low-contrast

text on the very bottom of my Western Digital Drives?


On the one hand I have to hand it to Apple, I have 10

multi-GB external drives connected via USB to an older

iMac and have yet to experience so much as a hiccup

in performance, but this thing of chipping functionality

out of its programs really pains me to see ... I just hope I

am mistaken here. Thanks.

iMac, OS X Yosemite (10.10.3), 24",120G SSD,6GRAM,2T home,4T TM

Posted on Jun 1, 2017 11:07 PM

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Jun 2, 2017 1:46 PM in response to bruxxx

Are you referring to the UUID? That is listed for a volume entry as the filesystem ID.


User uploaded file


As you can see above by CTRL- or RIGHT-clicking on the volume entry (indented) you can select Get Info at the top. The resulting display of information will include a UUID. Not sure if that is what you are looking for.

Jun 2, 2017 2:37 PM in response to MrHoffman

MrH ... I am seeking something that on the old disk utility used to

be called the USB serial number. That may be a kind of MAC

address on the USB bus, I am not sure, but it must be unique.


It must not be, at least for my purposes something that is system

dependent, ie on partitioning or configuration schemes.


Here is an example that I snarfed off Google searching for disk

utility images ...


User uploaded file



Please note the last field on the lower left near the question mark called

USB serial number. This is a field that is no longer listed in the "info"

screen of disk utility that I can find now. That is, if I take a drive that

has a USB Serial Number on it on my OS X Yosemite system and attach

it to a system with the new version of Disk Utility, that field is moved, gone

or missing? But if I attach it to my MacBookPro which has the older

OS and version of Disk Utility, that number remains constant.


Thanks for the idea of using diskutil, but so far I cannot see this number

in any of its output screens on either system.


Here is another image of disk utility where a disk is connected by

Firewire, and that field is labelled as "connection id"


User uploaded file


Seemingly now the only way I can access that number if to attach the

drive via USB to a system running the old disk utility and pull it off the

partition screen.

Jun 2, 2017 12:56 AM in response to Kappy

Hi Kappy,


Thanks, that does bring up a screen with some disk information,

but the number I am looking for is not there.


I think I might have misspoke as I don't think I meant the serial

number, but that is what I thought of it as. I think this is a number

if I recall that was labelled the universal number, meaning that

it was supposed to be unique across all disks in the known

universe and beyond! ;-)


I had previously only ever seen this on multiple disk volumes on

the chassis, but at some point they began labeling single hard

drives this way too and they were queriable from software. I'm

thinking the purpose was to have ID numbers on disks and in the

configuration sectors that allowed software to ID a disk or disk

set or storage fabric or some such???


I checked this one another machine and under the OLD Disk

Utility when I click on the drive I see USB Serial number, so that

seems to be the number I am looking for.


I cannot get the info field by right-clicking, but I can bring ip up

by clicking on the info button at the header of the Disk Utility

window. That sub-window has no such identifier in it, though

if I attach the same disk to my old laptop it shows up just fine.


I am baffled ... apparently they just removed this as far as I can

see?

Jun 2, 2017 2:08 PM in response to bruxxx

Kappy has given you some good answers.


FWIW, disk UUIDs are generated by software for specific partitioning schemes — the GPT scheme uses UUIDs in the partition tables — both for the GPT itself and for the partitions within the GPT. They're much closer to instantiations than to any sort of permanent serial numbers. It's also easy to create disks and partitions with matching UUIDs, too.


If you're willing to use the command line, then commands such as the following might be interesting:

diskutil list

diskutil info disk0s1

diskutil info -plist disk0s1

diskutil info -all

Jun 2, 2017 2:48 PM in response to Kappy

That UUID is not what I am looking for because it will change

depending on what interface the disk is attached to.


On my disk utility version 15.0 under El Capitan 10.11.6 there

is no capability to right-click the device, but there is a button

at the top of the window header labelled info, for whatever

disk is highlighted on the left. There is no connection or

USB Serial Number.


Thanks.

Jun 2, 2017 4:15 PM in response to bruxxx

Some USB widgets have a serial number, and some don't.


If your USB device does have a serial number, then the following command should report it:

system_profiler SPUSBDataType | grep "Serial Number" -B6

Sometimes processing XML format data is easier than parsing free-form and maybe-subject-to-change command output text, so here's what the relevant part of the XML output looks like...

system_profiler -xml SPUSBDataType | grep "serial_num" -B20 -A1

It's possible to create a tool that displays this serial number data to the GUI, too.


But as Kappy mentions, using a disk or partition name that's relevant to the contents of the disk or the partition works pretty well for most cases, too.

Jun 2, 2017 2:59 PM in response to MrHoffman

>> MrHoffman: Kappy has given you some good answers.


Not really, and who asked the question here ... I'll be the judge of that.

One wonders why you feel the need to brown nose on a forum like this.


Sticking to the facts would really be great. If Apple communitied had as

many answers as they do busybodies this place would be more useful.

Jun 2, 2017 3:03 PM in response to MrHoffman

system_profiler ... thanks, that is something I did not know about that may be useful.


I never really understood why some people have to comment on how

others decide to set up their systems. It's not really helpful or friendly,

just condescending and irritating, and double to get it from someone

trying to use my question to flatter another contributor ... ugh, the problem

with Apple is the politics all around. Just stick to the facts.

Jun 2, 2017 4:15 PM in response to MrHoffman

Mr.H,


The system_profiler does return this information in some varied forms.

I'll have to work on understanding it and find out where it might come from.


Here is the relevant output on 1 Western Digital 5TB My Book USB drive:

| | | | | "uid" = "USB:105812303448384A4836"

| | | | | "USB Serial Number" = "5758313144423448384A4836"

Serial Number: 5758313144423448384A4836


It's interesting how it is only the last 12 digits are the same

3448384A4836

between the UID and the serial number ... but I just want the last 4.


So much data is returned here it is hard to work with, but it is there.

Now I have to see what the El Capitan system does.


The purpose of all this is to tie together hardware and software by this number.

If I label my disks with these numbers I can get something like this ...


grep "4138" system_profiler.out.txt

| | | | | "uid" = "USB:105812303539564C4138"

| | | | | "USB Serial Number" = "5758313144323539564C4138"

Public-5TB_4138:

Mount Point: /Volumes/Public-5TB_4138

Serial Number: 5758313144323539564C4138

Public-5TB_4138:

Mount Point: /Volumes/Public-5TB_4138


This ties together hardware and software and with a label on the drive the physical drive as well.

Reduce confusion, reduce mistakes. I have many external USB drives to manage on these systems.


Regards

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