virtualbox on mac os sierra

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virtualbox on mac os sierra

Hello,

my virtual box has become v slow on mac os sierra to the pt of hogging the whole cpu. Does it work correctly fr others? Here is the extra report.

thanks

-kamal

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EtreCheck version: 3.3.3 (397)

Report generated 2017-06-08 23:32:59

Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com

Runtime: 31:12

Performance: Poor

Click the [Lookup] links for more information from Apple Support Communities.

Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.

Click the [Clean up] link to delete unused files.

Problem: Computer is too slow

Hardware Information: ⓘ

iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2009)

[Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]

iMac - model: iMac10,1

1 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (Duo) CPU: 2-core

4 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]

BANK 0/DIMM0

Empty

BANK 0/DIMM1 (1)

2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

BANK 1/DIMM1 (1)

2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

System Software: ⓘ

macOS Sierra 10.12.5 (16F73) - Time since boot: about 14 hours

Disk Information: ⓘ

WDC WD5000AAKS-40V2B0 disk0 : (500.11 GB) (Rotational)

[Show SMART report]

EFI (disk0s1 - MS-DOS FAT32) <not mounted> : 210 MB

Macintosh HD (disk0s2 - Journaled HFS+) / [Startup]: 499.25 GB (102.94 GB free)

Recovery HD (disk0s3 - Journaled HFS+) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB

PIONEER DVD-RW DVRTS09 ()

Gatekeeper: ⓘ

Mac App Store and identified developers

Clean up: ⓘ

/Library/LaunchAgents/com.adobe.AdobeCreativeCloud.plist

/Applications/Utilities/Adobe Creative Cloud/ACC/Creative Cloud.app/Contents/MacOS/Creative Cloud --showwindow=false --onOSstartup=true

Executable not found!

One orphan file found. [Clean up]

Kernel Extensions: ⓘ

/Library/Extensions

[loaded] com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt (2.2.16 - SDK 10.7) [Lookup]

/System/Library/Extensions

[not loaded] com.cisco.nke.ipsec (2.0.1) [Lookup]

Startup Items: ⓘ

CiscoVPN: Path: /System/Library/StartupItems/CiscoVPN

Startup items no longer function in OS X Yosemite or later

System Launch Agents: ⓘ

[not loaded] 7 Apple tasks

[loaded] 176 Apple tasks

[running] 67 Apple tasks

[killed] 32 Apple tasks

32 processes killed due to insufficient RAM

System Launch Daemons: ⓘ

[not loaded] 41 Apple tasks

[loaded] 175 Apple tasks

[running] 79 Apple tasks

[killed] 24 Apple tasks

24 processes killed due to insufficient RAM

Launch Agents: ⓘ

[not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2014-05-05) [Lookup]

[failed] com.adobe.ARMDCHelper.cc24aef4a1b90ed56a725c38014c95072f92651fb65e1bf9c8e43c37a2 3d420d.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-01-12) [Lookup]

[failed] com.adobe.AdobeCreativeCloud.plist (? faec172d 0 - installed 2014-05-05) [Lookup] - /Applications/Utilities/Adobe Creative Cloud/ACC/Creative Cloud.app/Contents/MacOS/Creative Cloud: Executable not found!

[loaded] com.nokia.NokiaSoftwareUpdaterAgent.plist (? 28480873 ae04f440 - installed 2016-01-15) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist (? c650d22d f8817326 - installed 2016-01-31) [Lookup]

[running] com.rim.BBLaunchAgent.plist (? c583fbf8 ce1b018 - installed 2016-01-06) [Lookup]

[running] com.rim.PeerManager.plist (Research in Motion Limited - installed 2015-05-27) [Lookup]

Launch Daemons: ⓘ

[loaded] com.adobe.ARMDC.Communicator.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-01-12) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.adobe.ARMDC.SMJobBlessHelper.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-01-12) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (? 2afb3af7 77ec3a65 - installed 2017-04-27) [Lookup]

[running] com.fitbit.galileod.plist (Fitbit, Inc. - installed 2015-10-30) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.malwarebytes.HelperTool.plist (Malwarebytes Corporation - installed 2017-04-04) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist (? 6d8cb30e 442fdde9 - installed 2011-03-10) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist (Shell Script e3fefdd2 - installed 2015-12-23) [Lookup]

[running] com.rim.BBDaemon.plist (BlackBerry Limited - installed 2015-03-11) [Lookup]

[not loaded] com.rim.nkehelper.plist (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-04-29)

[running] com.rim.tunmgr.plist (Research in Motion Limited - installed 2015-05-27) [Lookup]

[not loaded] org.virtualbox.startup.plist (Shell Script 700b9385 - installed 2017-04-30) [Lookup]

User Launch Agents: ⓘ

[loaded] com.SoftwareSecure.goloader.plist (? ca50e7a8 dfaff96e - installed 2017-05-31) [Lookup]

User Login Items: ⓘ

EEventManager Application - Hidden

(/Applications/Epson Software/Event Manager.app/Contents/Resources/Assistants/Event Manager/EEventManager.app)

SpeechSynthesisServer Application

(/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks /SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/SpeechSynthesisServer.app)

Nokia Multimedia Transfer Application

(~/Downloads/Nokia Multimedia Transfer.app)

VMware Fusion Start Menu Application

(/Applications/VMware Fusion.app/Contents/Library/VMware Fusion Start Menu.app)

Launch Nikon Message Center 2 Application

(/Applications/Nikon Software/Nikon Message Center 2/Nikon Message Center 2.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Launch Nikon Message Center 2.app)

EEventManager Application

(/Applications/Epson Software/Event Manager.app/Contents/Resources/Assistants/Event Manager/EEventManager.app)

Launch Nikon Message Center 2 Application

(/Applications/Nikon Software/Nikon Message Center 2/Nikon Message Center 2.app/Contents/SharedSupport/Launch Nikon Message Center 2.app)

Internet Plug-ins: ⓘ

AdobeAAMDetect: AdobeAAMDetect 2.0.0.0 (installed 2014-05-05) [Lookup]

FlashPlayer-10.6: 25.0.0.171 (installed 2017-05-11) [Lookup]

QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (installed 2017-05-27)

AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: 17.009.20044 (installed 2017-04-13) [Lookup]

AdobePDFViewer: 17.009.20044 (installed 2017-04-13) [Lookup]

DivX Web Player: 3.4.0.6 (installed 2015-09-16) [Lookup]

Flash Player: 25.0.0.171 (installed 2017-05-11) [Lookup]

JavaAppletPlugin: Java 8 Update 71 build 15 (installed 2016-01-31) Check version

OVSHelper: 1.1 (installed 2015-10-31) [Lookup]

SharePointBrowserPlugin: 14.1.0 (installed 2011-07-30) [Lookup]

iPhotoPhotocast: 7.0 (installed 2010-06-11)

User internet Plug-ins: ⓘ

WebEx64: 1.0 (installed 2013-07-11) [Lookup]

Time Machine: ⓘ

Time Machine not configured!

Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ

149% VirtualBoxVM --comment RosIndigo64Bits --startvm [and 2 more arguments]

7% system_profiler -nospawn -xml SPExtensionsDataType [and 2 more arguments]

3% mdworker -s mdworker -c [and 3 more arguments]

2% kernel_task

2% trustd --agent

Top Processes by Memory: ⓘ

2.30 GB VirtualBoxVM --comment RosIndigo64Bits --startvm [and 2 more arguments]

486 MB kernel_task

61 MB system_profiler -nospawn -xml SPExtensionsDataType [and 2 more arguments]

48 MB com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

37 MB Finder

Top Processes by Network Use: ⓘ

Input Output Process name

305 KB 273 KB mDNSResponder

35 KB 6 KB netbiosd

13 KB 6 KB helpd

8 KB 9 KB apsd

8 KB 947 B com.apple.iCloudHelper

Top Processes by Energy Use: ⓘ

143.90 VirtualBoxVM --comment RosIndigo64Bits --startvm [and 2 more arguments]

1.70 com.apple.WebKit.Networking

1.14 helpd

0.68 accountsd

0.60 com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

Virtual Memory Information: ⓘ

171 MB Available RAM

16 MB Free RAM

3.83 GB Used RAM

155 MB Cached files

210 MB Swap Used

Diagnostics Information: ⓘ

2017-06-08 14:47:46 ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/VirtualBox_2017-06-08-144746_[redacted].crash

org.virtualbox.app.VirtualBox - /Users/[redacted]/Desktop/VirtualBox.app/Contents/MacOS/VirtualBox

Application Specific Information:

BUG IN CLIENT OF LIBDISPATCH: Assertion failed: Block was expected to execute on queue [com.apple.main-thread]

crashed on child side of fork pre-exec

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.4)

Posted on Jun 8, 2017 11:26 AM

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Answer 1

John Galt

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Jun 9, 2017 4:35 PM in response to kamal_prasad

Here is a screenshot in case you're interested:

It's running on a 4 GB MacBook Air. It it not particularly demanding of either CPU or memory resources. I have a very specific purpose for using it and otherwise don't do much else with it, although Firefox runs quite well. Of course Linux is very efficient which helps.

I surmise the problem you are encountering is related to the VB guest you are using, not VB itself. Look into that.

Otherwise, if you are having any other trouble with your Mac, unrelated to using VB, it may point to a different cause.

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Answer 2

Eric Root

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685,221 points

Jun 18, 2017 5:21 PM in response to kamal_prasad

macOS Sierra: Revert to a previous macOS version

If you do revert, I'd use Setup Assistant to restore your data. This process takes a while, so do it when you won't need the computer for several hours, based on my experience.

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Answer 3

kamal_prasad Author

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Jun 8, 2017 11:55 PM in response to Rudegar

everyone is trying to reduce overhead to get from pt A to pt B eg car companies using composites.

If an earlier version could accomplish the same thing with fewer resources, it means the newer version is not well designed.

Can I move my desktop OS to snow leopard and still have the latest security fixes?

thanks

-kamal

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Answer 4

John Galt

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Jun 9, 2017 6:13 AM in response to kamal_prasad

kamal_prasad wrote:

my virtual box has become v slow on mac os sierra to the pt of hogging the whole cpu. Does it work correctly fr others?

VirtualBox is working perfectly well on all my Macs, including those with 4 GB RAM. It is not particularly resource-intensive, at least while running Ubuntu Linux.

Version 5.1.22 is the current release so be sure that is what you are using.

If you are having trouble with it, the reason is likely to be related to the virtual machine it is running. Contact Oracle VM VirtualBox for assistance.

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Answer 5

VikingOSX

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123,188 points

Jun 9, 2017 8:38 AM in response to kamal_prasad

Virtualbox is fine. You are trying to drive a car with four flat tires (4GB) on old hardware with a horribly slow Apple drive, using a new operating system with higher resource demands. As John Galt points out, a light-weight Virtualbox guest (e.g. Linux) with the right balance of guest memory, and cpu resource assignment — can be run in a 4GB RAM machine. In your case, you are exceeding your available memory, and swapping to secondary storage — which is much slower.

Regardless of the vendor, each successive release of an operating system incorporates added features that consume more resources than its predecessor. This progression also applies to security as well, where the most recent operating system gets more attention to security updates than its predecessor.

You have to pay to play, and if you want to run a virtual guest operating system with any hope of performance, especially if it is Windows — then you need to step up, and upgrade your RAM (e.g. 8GB), and put an SSD underneath the operating system.

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Answer 6

kamal_prasad Author

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Jun 18, 2017 7:11 AM in response to kamal_prasad

Hello,

I tried the same vm on my Lenovo laptop with 2.6Ghz core i7 and 8GB ram running windoze. It is many times faster than my imac. The image I used is Ubuntu 64-bit.

http://nootrix.com/software/ros-indigo-virtual-machine/

It does look like something is horribly broken in mac os sierra. Or maybe someone can try running an X windows app within this iso, from mac and windows10 on same hw and see the difference.

If I had to revert to an older mac osx which works well on my 2009 imac with 4GB, what s the procedure? is there any KB for that?

thanks

-kamal

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Answer 7

dialabrain

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Jun 18, 2017 8:01 AM in response to kamal_prasad

kamal_prasad wrote:

Hello,

I tried the same vm on my Lenovo laptop with 2.6Ghz core i7 and 8GB ram running windoze. It is many times faster than my imac. The image I used is Ubuntu 64-bit.

FWIW, it's not surprising that a machine with twice the RAM and a much faster, hyper-threading CPU runs the same VM faster than your 8 year old Mac.

The problem is not Sierra.

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Answer 8

kamal_prasad Author

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Jun 18, 2017 11:19 PM in response to Eric Root

I didn't use time machine as required by the link. I just upgraded from snow leopard to yesomite first and then to mac os sierra by getting the free OS disk image from App Store. You can see etra report above that there is no time machine configured.

I think yesomite was faster than sierra for me. So, can someone tell me downgrade path without losing any data from my mac. I can afford to start the process and not use system for a hours.

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Answer 9

Rudegar

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Jun 8, 2017 11:30 AM in response to kamal_prasad

4gb is pretty low even if one dont run a virtual machine in OS X versions older than mtn lion

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Answer 10

dialabrain

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Jun 9, 2017 12:10 AM in response to kamal_prasad

kamal_prasad wrote:

Can I move my desktop OS to snow leopard and still have the latest security fixes?

No.

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Answer 11

Csound1

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Jun 18, 2017 8:58 AM in response to kamal_prasad

I run Windows in a VboxVM on my i7 MBP with 16GB, it is extremely fast, as it it's clone when running on a 2009 MBP CoreDuo with 8GB.

One is Sierra, one is El Capitan, but both of them are very fast.

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Answer 12

kamal_prasad Author

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Jun 18, 2017 11:16 PM in response to dialabrain

I mentioned that someone should try using windows on the same hw. If others find that windows can do a better job on the same hw, then it means the OS is bogged down by inefficient code.

thanks

-kamal

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Answer 13

Csound1

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Jun 19, 2017 4:08 AM in response to kamal_prasad

As you chose not to make a backup when you should have you will have to make it now, before the downgrade begins. Do that and post back when you have.

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