Hi. Many albums have 20 - 50 songs. Do they automatically burn as two discs; isn't it true that the more songs, the poorer the sound quality ; I read never to buy greatest hits albums - TY

Sound quality when burning playlists

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Posted on Jun 26, 2017 8:17 AM

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Jun 26, 2017 3:42 PM in response to Jimzgoldfinch

Hi Jim, thank you for your response. I do know about maximum 80 minutes on a disc. Maybe I am getting confused about Apple music and iTunes. I have burned two playlists to disc. I made sure they fit on one disc. They are Lana Del Rey's "Honeymoon" and "Born to Die" albums. They play in my car (m4a format) but on my new expensive audio system, during the louder chorus notes, the sound seems somewhat distorted not clean and smooth. I'm thinking that there are too many songs even though they fit on 80 minute disc. I read that too many songs cause more compression and therefore poorer sound quality. Also to never buy "greatest hits" albums/CDs for this very reason.


I am new to iTunes; often in my search I see albums with 50 songs (i.e. 1 - 50, not 1 - 20 and 1-30)...way over 80 minutes; does playlist burning automatically prompt you to put in another disc.


I apologize if I am not in the correct forum.


Thank you

Barry

Jun 26, 2017 4:06 PM in response to Yer_Man

Thank you Terence,


I downloaded iTunes for free (no mention was made about a three month trial); please see Jim's response above. He says you cannot burn Apple music to discs. Kindly clarify if I am in the wrong forum. I downloaded two albums/playlists to disc and they were in m4a format and played in my car, but some portions of the two albums I mention above sound distorted. Also, as per above, when I hear a sample of each song (before I add to playlist), very often there is always distortion in parts. So, what I hear in the samples, is that the same sound that I will hear when burned to disc/s


Thank you

Barry

Jun 26, 2017 4:48 PM in response to CalebU

Hi Jim and Terence,


Kindly help me with this. By chance I discovered this amazing (for me) Album, "Armada Lounge, Volume 6 (the Best Downtempo songs...". It is soothing and such variety and would sound/show-off 😮) my new car audio system so well. The tweeters would get a real work-out, but in a quiet way. It says $11.99 U.S. to buy but it is broken down 1-19 and 1-19 for 38 songs. This is what I mean would this all be bought for $11.99 and two playlists would be created to burn two discs. I have good $150 Logitech computer speakers - all sample songs sound distorted when I listen to them, but I ask will they sound smooth and clean when I burn playlists to discs.


This means a lot to me. Thank you kindly.


Barry

Jun 26, 2017 6:14 PM in response to Jimzgoldfinch

Hi. I just want you to know that I spoke to a wonderful Apple support rep. He explained all to me. The confusion being that you, as most, assume that I am streaming music. But I use my desktop computer to pay and then burn playlist onto a disc. My preference is to have everything on CDs. I do not have a smartphone. I've also learned that depending how the song or album was produced, that would affect the sound quality. I just find it strange that a Company would produce/sell an album from a popular artist only to have consumer listen to poor quality sound. But I do know that if you can fit 21 songs on a 80 minute CD, the quality of sound is going to be more poor. I read forums or google persons who are audiophiles and they say this very thing. The less compression the better the sound.


Nevertheless, I apologize for the misunderstanding.


My best,

Barry

Jun 26, 2017 9:38 PM in response to CalebU

You confuse Apple Music with iTunes.


My preference is to have everything on CDs. I do not have a smartphone.


That's your preference. You're not the target audience for streaming services. You want different quality and don't take advantage of the mobility.


I've also learned that depending how the song or album was produced, that would affect the sound quality.


That's ever been true.


I just find it strange that a Company would produce/sell an album from a popular artist only to have consumer listen to poor quality sound.

That ones down to the Music producers. Also, remember there is a concept more accessible than either best or perfect, and that's 'good enough'. For most people the sound is good enough for them. You have different preferences. Good for you.


The less compression the better the sound


This Is true. Nothing I said contradicts this. I said the compression is the same if you have 3 songs or 30 on the disk.

Jun 26, 2017 10:08 PM in response to Yer_Man

Terence,


Thank you for your answers. I just purchased an Album which plays great on my computer speakers , but horribly on my expensive car audio system. "Armada Lounge, Vol. 6 The best Downtempo songs". Disappointing, I'll just have to play at home and for easy listening. But each song is very different; the noticeable notes for playing great on the tweeters do not do so. Oh well...take care


Barry

Jun 27, 2017 4:58 PM in response to CalebU

If you purchase a commercially issued audio CD the quality is not affected by the amount of time it runs. There is no compression; the maximum is 80 minutes and the quality is the same whether the disk contains 80 minutes or 3 minutes. The same is true if you burn an audio CD for your car. You can put 26 songs of exactly 3 minutes on an audio CD and anyone telling you that this causes a loss of quality doesn't know what they are talking about.


Songs from iTunes are in a compressed format, M4a, and when you burn them as a data disk they are transferred at exactly the same quality - no extra compression takes place. You can burn a lot more than 21 songs, and if there are more than will fit onto the CD iTunes will burn a second CD. It will not further compress the audio to squeeze it onto the CD.


if you are hearing distortion the most likely culprit is your car's audio system.

Jun 26, 2017 10:28 PM in response to CalebU

You need to adjust the system to account for the difference between the aiff files (on the commercial CDs) and the M4as from iTunes. That's what's going on here. Just like you had to adjust settings between vinyl and CD... as you said above:


I've also learned that depending how the song or album was produced, that would affect the sound quality.


If it cost 2k then it should be quite flexible.

Jun 27, 2017 5:23 PM in response to Roger Wilmut1

Hi Roger. Thank you for taking the time to help out. I do understand that a CD can hold 80 minutes or 700MB. You seem to be knowledgeable and I believe you regarding the fact that it doesn't matter how many songs are on the CD. I think it is true as well that it depends on the source whereby album was produced. I'm also learning more and more from the wonderful staff at Apple (I've called the 1-800 Canada toll free number three times in past several days); they are all amazing, stay with you for 45 minutes on phone and are so helpful and friendly.


So last night I came upon (I think I wrote this somewhere on this form) a wonderful album of 38 songs called "Armada Lounge, Volume 6, the best downtempo songs..very relaxing and a mixture of type of song; they don't all sound similar, very relaxing as you drive but not too lounge sounding). And yes, it broke it down of course to two discs. For some reason (maybe I was tired), it didn't sound so good in car last night when I took it outside in my visitor parking and played them. But today sounded great as I drove about doing errands and such. I will monitor if sometimes songs sound great and if other times sound poor, then you are correct it would be my "expensive" audio system. But I think that this very reputable Company did a great job installing system. And I did learn about the m4a format. iTunes won't even let you burn as mp3. I'm so used to mp3's. And I know now that m4a is better quality.


I truly appreciate your help. Thank you.

Barry

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