Keeping keynote presentation active while showing another window

Hello,

I'd like to switch to another application during a keynote presentation (on a secondary display). But every time I command-tab to the other application, the keynote presentation vanishes until I command-tab back to keynote (pushing the other application behind the keynote presentation!).

Is there a way to keep the keynote presentation active in the back while allowing the audience to view the other application (little window in the front)? (In case you're wondering, it's for a classroom where the students see the question on keynote and answer with remote controls on the other application and see their responses, so it's crucial that both are visible at the same time)

Thanks (I tried to search but couldn't find anything relevant).

MacBook Pro 2.0 GHz Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Posted on Jan 3, 2007 8:24 PM

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Jan 8, 2007 8:36 PM in response to counterpt

OK an update:
The application (called CPS) I want to use has an intel-mac version now. It is in always-on-top mode and so it sits above any other window, great. I can even run PowerPoint presentations and have CPS happily display in front of the PowerPoint presentation.

I want to use keynote however (a lot of quicktime movies and features I want to use, that make it difficult to export to PowerPoint)

But, for some reason Keynote is different and it wants to sit on top of CPS when in presentation mode.

I just want to make sure one last time that there is no way to display CPS on top of an active Keynote presentation.

Thanks.

Jan 9, 2007 5:46 AM in response to Kyn Drake

Thank you. I already had the allow expose setting same as the link you have. When I switch to the other application, the keynote presentation becomes invisible until I swtich back to keynote. For some reason, keynote wants to stay in front of everything, where as powerpoint is happy letting the other app stay in front of it.

Thanks again, I really appreciate your help.

Well I'll keep my fingers crossed for iWork '07!

Jan 21, 2007 5:21 PM in response to counterpt

Don't really have an answer here. Just wanted to point out I'm stuggling with the same issue. I've been presenting in PowerPoint / PC with a TurningPoint audience response system / software.

I just got a MacBook to take advantage of Keynote. Like you, I'm trying to figure out how to toggle between Keynote presentations and TurningPoint for Mac PowerPoint.

I'm in front of large audience and I'd love to be able to move between the two programs without interrupting the flow of the workshop.

Jan 21, 2007 6:50 PM in response to counterpt

Before version 3, Keynote used the "ScreenSaver" layer to display all it's animations. This is because, since that layer is frontmost, it allows the smoothest playback of Quartz effects. With Keynote 3, since the display is more efficient and video cards more powerful, they allow the option for Keynote being set to another layer which allows other items to overlay it.

With the release of Keynote 3, many properly written apps were able to take over the screen (SmartSketch, mouseposé) where they weren't able to before with no changes to their software. They SHOULD be able to overlay Keynote without forcing you to switch to their app and I'd think that, unless they're maintaining compatibility with 10.2, that they'd be able to update to do this.

Jan 30, 2007 7:42 PM in response to Kyn Drake

Thanks. I'm using a solution (not ideal but it works).
I was surprised how well keynote exports to powerpoint even with movies and other complicated things.
Now, I create the presentations in keynote and present them with powerpoint (I like the slide view in keynote and I don't understand why it's missing in powerpoint (especially since the windows version has it)).
The audience polling software just sits in front of powerpoint and works fine. I want to thank you for the explanation you gave, it was very informative.

Jan 31, 2007 9:59 AM in response to counterpt

Hi, don't know it this will help you, but it did solve another annoying related problem which had been bugging even Brian and Kyn. I quote from an old post of mine.

The question was:
When I interrupt a slide with Front Row to play a
song, I get the desktop back afterwards rather than
the slide I interrupted. I have to manually click on
the Keynote icon to get back to my slide. Is this the
intended behavior? It would be really nice if the
interrupted slide would come back up.


My answer was:
This drove me mad until I discovered the trick. This assumes you're using the Apple Remote.

1) click through KN until the point you want to switch out to Front Row. (This can be any point, say build 27 on a slide with 43 builds. It can even be in the middle of an embedded QT movie - yes, even a 1920x1080 HDV assuming you've got the codec from FCP or QMaster).

2) this is the important bit. Click the ENTER button on the remote - in the centre of the click wheel - BEFORE you click the MENU button to call up Front Row. The freezes KN at exactly the moment you click.

3) Do whatever you want in Front Row

4) Return to KN using the MENU Button to get back up the Front Row hierarchy

5) Then click the ENTER button again to restart KN at exactly the point you left it. You do not get the Desktop back and you do not need to manually click the present slides button in KN.

This really blew 'em away at one of my recent gigs.

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