External hard drive questions

I'm very confused about external hard drives and backup if anyone could please answer my questions... I need to be clear about things.

I have a Mac OSX Yosemite.


Ok, so first of all, I purchased two Seagate backup plus slim 1TB/3 USB.

I used one to backup my mac and watched a youtube tutorial about formatting seagate and I have Time Machine. So I did that and the seagate external drive was connected in my computer for months and automatically backed up. I didn't remove the USB from my computer until today when I noticed that the seagate backup is getting full. Also, my mac itself was running out of storage and I need more space. I have lots of videos and photos on my mac. So I was thinking of using another seagate external hard drive just for videos/photos by dragging it to the drive. My questions are:


1. When I connect a new seagate hard drive, do I always need to go to disk utilities and click on "erase" to reformat it??

2. If I just want to save photos/videos on seagate, can I just drag it to the hard drive and then disconnect the USB? if I need to add more videos/photos to the same drive later on, and then connect the USB again, do I need to reformat the drive all over again? won't it erase all the photos/videos that were already saved?


So as you can see, I'm very confused about hard drives and have no idea what happens if I connect a new one and then if I need to reformat it. I want to make sure my videos/photos will be saved on one hard drive, but then I'll always need to connect the USB again whenever I want to add videos, so then what happens?

iMac, OS X Yosemite (10.10.5)

Posted on Jul 12, 2017 7:11 PM

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Jul 13, 2017 1:41 PM in response to revi83

So should I get another seagate external hard drive (and a higher storage of about 4TB)? And after I get a new seagate external hard drive and use it as a backup with Time Machine, do I need to reformat it? (sorry for the same question again, just want to be sure).

When you plug in a new disk, if you are asked if you want to use the disk with Time Machine, then Time Machine will format it for use with Time Machine.


If you are NOT asked, then you would reformat it, then use System Preferences -> Time Machine -> Select Disk to assign the disk for Time Machine's use.

Once I use one hard drive for a complete backup with Time Machine, I also want to get one external hard drive for all of my photos/videos on my computer. So when I connect another hard drive, do I just drag over the photo/video files?

Yes, you can do that. This assumes all the previous emails about the initial, need only 1 time, formatting for that disk occur.


You might also want to read this article "How to move an Apple Photos for OS X library to an external drive"

<http://www.macworld.com/article/2999846/photography/how-to-move-an-apple-photos- for-os-x-library-to-an-external-drive.ht…>


And

<Move your iMovie for Mac (2014) library - Apple Support>


Since you have an iMac, you can leave the disk connected all the time if you want. If you want to disconnect it, then you first tell the Finder to "Eject" the disk, then you can remove the USB cable from your Mac.

what's the process once I connect a new hard drive and just want it for photo/videos files? not with time machine for backup.

If Time Machine prompts you asking if you want to use this disk for Time Machine, you say "No" or whatever the button is that effectively says "No".


When I'm done backing up my videos/photos on a hard drive, I also read that it's a good idea to back up files online...anything you'd recommend? is Icloud good enough for large video files?

Sorry, but I do not have an opinion on that. iCloud is not bad, and it is integrated with macOS, but I have not used it, so I'm not qualified to tell you what to do.


As for my own stuff, I've been playing with computers for so long I've rolled my own backup solutions which do not include commercial on-line backup services.

After backing up videos/photos online and on the external hard drive, I want to delete those from my computer so that I'd have enough storage space since I only have 1.85GB left. Am I doing the process right to make more storage space on my computer?

In an "Ideal" perfect world, you want 3 copies of any data you really care about.

  • The original is the 1st copy
  • A copy on a local backup that is kept up-to-date, and is fast access should you need it
  • A copy off-site which protects you from fire, theft and natural disasters.

Having 2 copies of your data is so far ahead of the the vast majority of computer users. getting up to 3 copies might be sometime to strive for in the future.


NOTE: If your new Time Machine backup disk is sufficiently large, you can tell Time Machine to include your photo/video disk in the backups. That would give you a local backup of your external photo/video storage.

Jul 12, 2017 7:32 PM in response to revi83

1. When I connect a new seagate hard drive, do I always need to go to disk utilities and click on "erase" to reformat it??

As Csound1 says, you need to format it the first time you connect, if you want to use it with your Mac.

MacOS, extended (journaled)

With GUID partition map


2. If I just want to save photos/videos on seagate, can I just drag it to the hard drive and then disconnect the USB?

Do not JUST disconnect the USB. Make sure you "Eject" it via the Finder "BEFORE" you disconnect it. Ejecting it will make sure that all the data you have transferred to the drive has been flushed from memory to the disk.


if I need to add more videos/photos to the same drive later on, and then

connect the USB again, do I need to reformat the drive all over again?

won't it erase all the photos/videos that were already saved?

No. The first format will put a Mac compatible file system on the drive, and now you can use the Finder to add and remove files. There is not need to reformat, unless you WANT to start with an empty drive.

Jul 13, 2017 5:40 AM in response to revi83

Getting brand new disk drive is like buying a piece of land. Formatting the disk drive is like building home on the piece of land. Storing files on the disk drive is like moving in furniture, dishes, clothing, etc...


When you leave the house, and come back, you do not need to build a new house each time. And the stuff you left in the house should still be there. You can move things in and out of the house.


The only time you destroy the existing house, is when you want a completely new house. If you bring in the wrecking ball while the house still has stuff in it, then that stuff is lost.


Maybe the question should be "What are you going to be using this disk drive for"? That might affect the answer.


Also, do I need to do anything with the time machine?

Time Machine is the macOS provided backup utility. You DO NOT need to setup a backup if you do not want. macOS prompts you when you plug in a brand new drive, asking if you want to use the disk with Time Machine, because Apple knows that disk drives fail, and the data users have on their Macs is valuable to them, so they are trying to make it easy to setup a backup as pain free as possible.


If you already have a backup system in place, then it is not necessary to give a disk over to Time Machine. If you do not have any kind of backup, then you might consider dedicating an external disk as a Time Machine backup disk. The disk should be at least 2 times larger than the internal Mac's boot disk.

Jul 13, 2017 1:02 PM in response to BobHarris

Ok, spare with me since I'm in a big need for mac backup tutorials (I've been reading some online and some of it is confusing me!).... sorry for the dumb questions, I know I should have done backup way before my computer storage is almost full, so I'm new to this...and I do have a few other questions if you can be helpful.


So my mac OSX Yosemite storage is really almost full. It says that I have 1.85 GB left from 999 GB. My seagate 1TB backup is also almost full... it says I have 63GB left from 999GB. I used this seagate hard drive with Time Machine to backup the computer. Now the time machine stopped backing up my computer because it says that I don't have enough space. So should I get another seagate external hard drive (and a higher storage of about 4TB)? And after I get a new seagate external hard drive and use it as a backup with Time Machine, do I need to reformat it? (sorry for the same question again, just want to be sure).


Once I use one hard drive for a complete backup with Time Machine, I also want to get one external hard drive for all of my photos/videos on my computer. So when I connect another hard drive, do I just drag over the photo/video files? what's the process once I connect a new hard drive and just want it for photo/videos files? not with time machine for backup.


When I'm done backing up my videos/photos on a hard drive, I also read that it's a good idea to back up files online...anything you'd recommend? is Icloud good enough for large video files?


After backing up videos/photos online and on the external hard drive, I want to delete those from my computer so that I'd have enough storage space since I only have 1.85GB left. Am I doing the process right to make more storage space on my computer?


Sorry for all the questions again... thanks for helping!

Jul 13, 2017 1:13 PM in response to revi83

Your available storage is now too low for safe operation so buying a new drive for Time Machine is a very good idea.


As to your question, format the new drive for Time Machine as soon as you get it (just plug it in and Time Machine should ask you whether you want it initialized for use with Time Machine), you do.


Once you are sure that all photos are safely backed up you can delete them from your Mac, but be sure.


Online backup has many disadvantages (not the least of which is that iCloud is not a backup system and will disappoint on demand if used as one) I don't recommend it (online backup) at all.

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