I understand that this is unsupported, against the EULA, and frowned upon by the Apple Community. I currently own two iMacs, what law does this violate by downloading Mac OS on my mac and installing it to my PC? Thanks!
iMac with Retina 5K display, macOS Sierra (10.12.4), Late 2015
LedbyLight wrote:
So in installing that where do I break the copyright?
In actuality you can do whatever you want with your PC and Apples software, only the people you tell will know that you are in breach of contract, but now that you have come to an Apple hosted forum to tell us about it, Apple know.
LedbyLight wrote:
So in installing that where do I break the copyright?
In actuality you can do whatever you want with your PC and Apples software, only the people you tell will know that you are in breach of contract, but now that you have come to an Apple hosted forum to tell us about it, Apple know.
Why don't you call Apple's legal department and ask them. I'm sure they would be happy to explain it to you in detail.
It's illegal. End of discussion. This is a technical support forum. It is not our job to educate you on the fine points of why you are a criminal.
If you make a copy of software you have a license for and give or sell it to a 3rd party, it becomes a criminal offense. Installing and using a copy you do NOT have a license for is also a criminal offense.
You see, the software is not your property; it remains Apple's property while they have only allowed you to use the software. I think you'll find the best answers right here in the contract you signed when you installed the OS (and, by installing it, you did agree to and sign the contract):
Csound1 wrote:
LedbyLight wrote:
So in installing that where do I break the copyright?
In actuality you can do whatever you want with your PC and Apples software, only the people you tell will know that you are in breach of contract, but now that you have come to an Apple hosted forum to tell us about it, Apple know.
Which brings up another fine point. According to the Legal - Website Terms of Use - Apple (this website) and Legal - Piracy Prevention - Apple incorporated within it by reference, Apple would be well within their rights to use this Discussion in a legal proceeding against the OP.
Excerpted from it:
Apple may disclose any information we have about you (including your identity) if we determine that such disclosure is necessary in connection with any investigation or complaint regarding your use of the Site, or to identify, contact or bring legal action against someone who may be causing injury to or interference with (either intentionally or unintentionally) Apple’s rights or property, ...
Etcetera.
He or she would be wise to ask someone qualified to remove this entire Discussion.
... what law does this violate by downloading Mac OS on my mac and installing it to my PC?
Title 17 of the United States Code in addition to similar laws in most other countries.
The EULA is a legal contract. By violating the EULA, you violate your contract with Apple, as the publisher of the software, as well as copyright law. It is NOT legal to install macOS on non-Apple hardware.
No, Apple can write the contract. That's what the EULA is. A contract. If you don't agree to it, don't use the software. Copyright law is a separate thing... that IS a law.
Violating the EULA is a civil matter. Violating copyright law is a criminal matter.
The finer points of legalities have been stated.
But know this — the instant that you install macOS on a PC, and it is on a network, and macOS is communicating with Apple's servers. Apple will know that your platform is a PC and not a Mac, and then you are at Apple's mercy. They may, or may not decide that since you have violated the specific terms of the macOS license agreement, to remotely revoke your rights to the operating system via a server to client software push.
KiltedTim wrote:
If you make a copy of software you have a license for and give or sell it to a 3rd party, it becomes a criminal offense. Installing and using a copy you do NOT have a license for is also a criminal offense.
Sorry, I missed something. stating something is a criminal offense doesn't make it one. What criminal laws are violated if say you use a copy of Photoshop let's say you found on a torrent site?
KiltedTim wrote:
If you make a copy of software you have a license for and give or sell it to a 3rd party, it becomes a criminal offense. Installing and using a copy you do NOT have a license for is also a criminal offense.
Nevermind, I found it myself…
http://www.bsa.org/~/media/Files/Antipiracy/enCA/CanadaKnowtheLaw.ashx
Allan Eckert wrote:
Law against sale of stolen merchandise.
If it is on Torrent, it is stolen.
Allan, the reason I asked is because I think we all assume piracy is illegal but never do I see anyone do more than say it is. I think it would be more effective to be able to show people what the actual laws and penalties are.
I think it would be more effective to be able to show people what the actual laws and penalties are.
Apple's legal department is the one that would need to do that. I would not do that because a) most (all?) of us are not lawyers and b) we may be subject to civil suits if we state something which (in this litigious society) someone may claim caused them harm/inconvenience/damages because our opinion was not quite correct. That is the main reason I try to simply link to the pertinent licensing agreements and/or just copy excerpts.
So Apple can write laws? I understand the copyright violation, but the EULA being a law doesn't make sense to me.
It's not criminal law. You won't get arrested. However, if Apple so chooses they can sue you since you agreed to the EULA.
Is it legal to install MacOS on PC
