Update iPad 2 to iOS 10

rondug wrote:

A 7 year old iPad is still a 7 year old iPad. I have a stereo from 1983 that still works fine. The difference is it doesn't need software to work. So if you paid $500 for an iPad 7 years ago then you're really been renting it for $71.43 per year.

That's not including all the software you purchased to install on it.

Really...

I used to drive a classic car from the 1960’s that used to run fine, too, but got too expensive to keep looking good and to keep in good running condition due to parts being more expensive and harder to obtain.

So, what’s your point?

You could make the same statement for any type of computing device.

And, technically, no one actually owns any of the software they purchase.

You pay a fee for a “usage” ONLY license.

rondug wrote:

A 7 year old iPad is still a 7 year old iPad. I have a stereo from 1983 that still works fine. The difference is it doesn't need software to work. So if you paid $500 for an iPad 7 years ago then you're really been renting it for $71.43 per year.

That's not including all the software you purchased to install on it.

No I completely own the iPad, I don't have to return it at any point. Its mine to keep. Whether it can still keep up with current demands of the operating system and apps does not make it any less mine to keep. I own a first generation iPad too. I can do things on it still. But I understand it no longer has the resources to run current Apps.

What's your point really? That you are simply angry your device is old, and it cannot run the newest Apps?

When exactly would you consider a good time to upgrade to a newer iPad would be? 8 years? 10? 12? When would be a good time to upgrade to a newer device for you? Why is 7 years not enough?

Why?

Why exactly do you think a specified amount of RAM, and processor speed can continue to be able to satisfactorily run the newest iOS and Apps for ever? Do you think newer software simply does not ever need more resources to run?

If that is the case, we should still be using Apple IIe's from the 80's.

With mobile devices this advancement is much faster than it has been with computers. There's always new stuff and with new stuff, come new requirements.

Have you even used a computer that shipped with Win 3.1? An iPad 2's hardware is superior to my first win xp machine, and win xp is only 15 years old at most, on a desktop platform.

The real reason support gets discontinued is more often logistics, because it costs more money to maintain support for an older platform than simply discontinuing it.

There is nothing wrong with no longer supporting hardware, especially if the hardware is allowed to behave as normal with its older software...

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beyondthesky wrote:

Have you even used a computer that shipped with Win 3.1?

As a matter of fact I have. Used them extensively through High School in the early 90s. What does that have to do with anything at all? I have probably used every version of Windows since Windows 3.1

beyondthesky wrote:

An iPad 2's hardware is superior to my first win xp machine, and win xp is only 15 years old at most, on a desktop platform.

It probably is, so? That doesn't mean iOS has the same requirements as Windows XP had 15 years ago.

Note that an iPad 2 has a 1ghz dual core processor and 512MB (that's megabytes not gigabytes) of RAM. Even Windows 7 needs twice that amount of RAM for the 32 bit version, and 4 times that to run its 64 bit version.

If one can assume the requirements for iOS to be similar, the iPad 2 has long since not had enough resources to run the newer versions of iOS since they are 64 bit only.

beyondthesky wrote:

The real reason support gets discontinued is more often logistics, because it costs more money to maintain support for an older platform than simply discontinuing it.

Is that unreasonable?

Note that Apple is still the company that maintains support the longest for its mobile products. Most other companies stop updates to their older products within a year or 2 of release unless they are the flagship units.

I believe my understanding of Hardware is pretty good. I work in IT, and have at this point almost 20 years experience in the field.

The fact remains that an iPad 2 cannot run the 64 bit iOS on its 32 bit processor, anymore than your Windows XP machine can run Windows 10 today satisfactorily.

As has been explained many times in this thread already, mobile device tech moves much much faster than computer tech. As such support life of a mobile product is much less, than a desktop or laptop support life.

beyondthesky wrote:

There is nothing wrong with no longer supporting hardware, especially if the hardware is allowed to behave as normal with its older software...

Then what's the issue here? Old iPads don't stop working because there's no longer iOS updates for them. They continue to function as they have. Apps may stop being available as time goes on, and newer versions of iOS are released, but it does not happen immediately.

In general, iPads have a functional life of several years after they stop getting iOS updates. in general an iPad 2 at this point 7 years old, is only now starting suffer the lack of Apps.

I agree with you totally last two month i had the get rid of my apple products cause they can’t update after spending thousands on laptops iPads phones o can’t use them cause 98%of the apps require update to 10.0 or later and they all are in perfect condition!! Apple sold use a dream and not taking responsibility for it or their word . Every announcement is is the product of the future !! I know it’s not true now

I don’t know what your iPad issues were, but while I own an iPad Pro, both my wife and I own and still use iPad 2 and 3 models and both of us STILL get regular, daily app updates under iOS 9.3.5 for more than 85-90% of our installed apps.

My wife and I use our older iPads everyday.

Technology, especially mobile device technology always moves ahead and at a much faster pace than normal computer technology.

iPad 2, 3 and 1st gen iPad Mini models are 6 and 7 year old devices. Some iPhones are close to the same age.

The hardware is simply too old and underpowered to cope with newer iOS versions.

BTW,

There are two distinct procedures for getting older iOS 9 apps for apps that have moved on to iOS 10 and/or 11.

But, since you no longer own any iDevices, I won’t bother posting these steps/procedures.

I wish i would came across your info a few months ago my issues was software ever app i use for work and school updated to newer software and no longer uses older as told and explained by Apple support and tech after multiple appointments and store visits i couldn’t access iTunes on laptop or iPad and being i need the apps for work and school use i would have to update to newer devices as told by Apple support and tech at store if i only went online and that’s it o would of been fine but the apps i use have to be updated and no older version can be used as i tried with a few looking on YouTube and re down loading and opening the apps just to have the message i have to update

Could you post the links for me I’m having same issu i can’t use my current apps all asking to upgrade and most of the new app o tried to download is saying it can only be updated with iOS 10.0 the latest in order to download which i can’t because iPad 2 only goes up to 9.3.5

I actually just gave mine to my laptop to a student and iPad to my neighbor she likes the game that was on there I’m not upgrading any time soon the product are expensive and currently I’m in school and working on a few other things so funds are limi

New 2018, 9.7 inch screen, 32 GBs storage, 6th gen iPad with Apple Pencil compatibilty starts at $329.

You can find older 2017, 5th gen, 9.7 inch screen 32 GBs storage iPads ( NOT Apple Pencil compatible) for under $300.

I only agree to the part of no new apps for an older ipad.

You said "The iPad has not suddenly stopped doing what its been doing, and you can keep using it if you wish, nobody is forcing you to update at all."

This is problematicly wrong.

My iPad 2 (Safari) started recently to inform me that I can't access this or that website because I need to update my web browser. As Safari is integral part of the ios, I can't update my web browser. I also cannot install Firefox as alternative as it prerequisites ios 10 as well.

So my iPad stops doing what it used to, and with time it gets worse.

Apple should at least updating Safari. Without a functioning web browser the iPad becomes obsolete.

I would rather the choice than submit to the fact that I must purchase a new device whenever apple decides for me. As a student, this is the ipad I have inherited as my laptop and this is what I must make do with. It's a little frustrating when there are no channels set in place for those than cannot buy the newest devices.

For education, Apple does have the new 2018, 9.7 inch screen 6th iPad with supoort for the Apple Pencil for a 10% student discount.

So, instead of paying $329 U.S.D. for the 32 GBs storage model of the new 2018, 6th gen iPad, it would cost $298 U.S.D., instead under the Apple student/education discount. The Apple Pencil is only $89 under the student discount, too, and Logitech has a smart stylus that ONLY works with the 2018, 6th gen 9.7 inch iPad that is even a cheaper education stylus, called the Logitech Crayon at $70.

Good Luck to You!

It can't be updated past 9.3.5.

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