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Where did Edit Playlist go in 12.7 iTunes?

Why did they remove Edit Playlist option from iTunes 12.7? How do you easily edit now? I see you can drag songs or albums into a new playlist, but you drag them blind. You can't see where they are landing and thus they may drag out of order.


The note in the new version says to open a new window to easily edit the order of songs. How do you create a new window within iTunes?

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Posted on Sep 14, 2017 3:43 PM

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Posted on Sep 16, 2017 12:03 PM

I'm not sure I understand all this. You can see song length by setting View > View As > Songs, then if needed Control-click or two-finger-tap on the row of column headers and add the Time category (though it should be there).


How much of the playlists you can see at the same time would seem to depend on the size of your display and the dimensions to which you've adjusted the windows. It's easy enough to change the latter for either or both the main iTunes window and the breakout playlist window.


Song order can be changed, as before, by selecting the leftmost column and dragging the tracks into place.

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Sep 16, 2017 12:03 PM in response to McFazzler

I'm not sure I understand all this. You can see song length by setting View > View As > Songs, then if needed Control-click or two-finger-tap on the row of column headers and add the Time category (though it should be there).


How much of the playlists you can see at the same time would seem to depend on the size of your display and the dimensions to which you've adjusted the windows. It's easy enough to change the latter for either or both the main iTunes window and the breakout playlist window.


Song order can be changed, as before, by selecting the leftmost column and dragging the tracks into place.

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Sep 22, 2017 1:06 PM in response to jagresock

They have made a right pigs ear of the edit playlist option on this update. To put an album in order is now a bit of a nightmare, particularly if you want to burn something to CD. The easiest option now is to just paste it into Nero and easier to put in order that way. I do hope they change it back on the next update.

John

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Sep 22, 2017 1:38 PM in response to jagresock

I also am perplexed by this LARGE mistake on the part of Apple, who once again have dropped the ball. Imagine if you can that I have HUNDREDS of playlists that have been carefully maintained since the early 2000 (remember SoundJam?) and now I cannot edit them. ***! All of my music is on my iMac and shared to iPhone for car and AppleTV to sound system. I never want Apple Music or streaming. I just want my music and the ability to easily interact with all the purchases (thousands) that entitle me to that.


Apple, just add back the edit playlist and don't take away features... add them... carefully.


BTW, we don't need sorting abilities... We need to edit a playlist and have a dedicated window show all the songs by views that can add the file, detect duplicates and allow for manual sorting or listing.

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Oct 10, 2017 3:49 PM in response to TowelieBot

Not really. I quite understand that those that use a feature will miss it when it goes. There were many complaints when the ability to open multiple windows was originally removed from iTunes a few years ago. The Edit Playlist control is a relatively recent addition to iTunes. Before its arrival people either used multiple windows, or used the sidebar to add content to a list, and then went into the list to arrange it.


Use Feedback - iTunes - Apple to make the case for a return of the feature, or install iTunes 12.6.3 which also restores the app management features removed in iTunes 12.7. Windows users need to uninstall the main iTunes application first, and both Mac and Windows users need to restore a pre-iTunes 12.7 version of their iTunes database as outlined in Empty/corrupt iTunes library after upgrade/crash.


tt2

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Nov 27, 2017 5:20 PM in response to jagresock

I have been looking for he same and found this:

  • You can add a song to a playlist by finding it and right-clicking it. The option "Add to a Playlist" will appear.
  • In the playlist you can re-order them just by dragging them and dropping them in the right spot
  • You can delte a song from a playlist just by clicking it and pressing the "delete" button in your keyboard, or by "right-clicking" it and selecting delete.


This ne way of doing things is ver cumbersome, and I agree with you in the fact that the older way was better, but at least we are able to work with plalists.


I hope this is helpful.

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Sep 16, 2017 6:08 AM in response to jagresock

You can open your playlist in a new window by right-clicking on the playlist in the pane on the left and clicking "Open in New Window". You can then open the new window in front of iTunes, but you can't view the whole of both at the same time. You also can't see the length of the tracks if you don't have iTunes in full screen mode (which means you can't see the playlist in the other window).

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Sep 16, 2017 7:40 AM in response to richard grant

Thanks Richard, I just worked that one out after I posted! I haven't had to change the format of my windows before. Unfortunately the 2 windows can't be fully viewed at the same time. It's a bit of an awkward way of doing something that was so simple and user-friendly before the update unfortunately.

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Sep 16, 2017 8:18 AM in response to McFazzler

There are some other iTunes tricks that might be useful. For instance, selecting a track or a batch of tracks, then tap the 3-dot symbol (or Control-click, or 2-finger tap) > Add to Playlist > New Playlist. Or adjusting the order in which columns are listed (by dragging around column headers), so information that's pertinent to what you're doing is easier to see without looking all over the screen.


It's always worth poking around a bit and discovering things, with Apple products in general. My experience with iTunes in particular, these past few versions, is that most all of the old functions are still there, somewhere, though maybe obscured by new layers of the interface. I still pine for DJ Shuffle (or whatever that was called), though Up Next is a serviceable replacement.


Also, never hesitate to avail yourself of the forums here, because so often there is a solution, or at least a workaround, for whatever it is you're trying to do, and there are absolute masters like turingtest2 who will know about it.


Cheers

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Sep 22, 2017 2:08 PM in response to RJW Franssen

Off with Apple... and of course they've done the wrong thing... again. Sheesh... now you need to open two windows to manage seeing all my 9,500+ songs so I can then choose and review the list and manage it while seeing all my choices.... What a pain... really. You can simply allow for the sidebar!


Now back to struggling with IOS11... another nightmare... Windows Creep...

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Sep 22, 2017 2:23 PM in response to jagresock

Instead of Edit Playlist for editing regular playlists iTunes 11 reintroduces the much more powerful ability to open multiple playlist windows. You can drag & drop multiple items between two or more open windows keeping control of where the dropped content is placed.


tt2

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Sep 23, 2017 8:33 AM in response to jagresock

(Note, that I asked the original question.) Thanks to those who offered a few tips (e.g., how to create a new window). I am slowly relearning how to edit playlists but I hope Apple goes back to including the simple "Edit Playlist" link when you open a new blank playlist. It was so much easier.


In the meantime, I am unhappy to say, that I have lost at least 6 playlists with the latest upgrade. There might be more. These are the only ones Ive discovered since of my 200+ playlists, they are all in folders and subfolders. I just happened to notice that 6 are gone. All the songs are still there, so I can recreate them if I want, but where did they go and why?


Has anyone else noticed that some of your playlists disappeared?

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Sep 23, 2017 4:12 PM in response to jagresock

I have the same issue! I run music for a youth hockey organization and prior to the itunes update I could click "edit playlist" and have two playlists open on the same window. It was awesome! Today, I ran


I ran music for a sporting event today for the first time after the itunes update, and "edit playlist" option is gone! I figured out how to open up multiple playlist windows by googling it, but I can't shrink the multiple playlist windows to the size I want and it is a HUGE inconvenience for running music during hockey games.


APPLE - PLEASE BRING BACK THE "EDIT PLAYLIST" BUTTON ASAP! I NEED TO HAVE TWO PLAYLISTS OPEN IN THE SAME WINDOW. IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO HAVE 3 TO 4 PLAYLISTS OPEN IN THE SAME WINDOW!!!

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Sep 23, 2017 4:37 PM in response to turingtest2

Yes, but I can't make them as small (narrow) as I'd like for running music from multiple playlists at the same time. If there is a way to make them playlists "skinnier" so I can run them side by side, please let me know. I'd love to have 4 narrow playlists open side by side.

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Oct 2, 2017 11:42 PM in response to jagresock

I think I know what the issue is/was... because I was struggling with it myself.

In previous versions it was possible to click a "edit playlist" and then this playlist appeared on the right... it made it possible to have the playlist easily accessible whilst scrolling trough other lists....


If this is your problem (which was my problem) I went around it by opening the list in a new window... it is not as elegant but it works for me...


I hope this helps in any way

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Oct 10, 2017 3:30 PM in response to turingtest2

You are seriously missing RJW Franssen's point... You should not have to open a bunch of iTunes playlist windows just to edit a playlist. How in the world do you have a media player that does not have an "edit playlist" option? Literally the simplest function that everyone had access to for years. The sidebar that popped out was so much simpler.


Now, you have to open all the windows and de-maximize your current iTunes client, because unless you have multiple monitors, you can't drag them over since there is not even an option to set these new windows as "always on top".


Once you've eventually cascaded the windows, you could have already finished editing the playlist with the old system. Also, highlighting/selecting a bunch of songs in your music library and selecting "add to X playlist" always puts them at the bottom of the playlist, which is another bad feature. It always adds them to the bottom of the playlist, and if you have say 1000 songs in a playlist, you have to re-select those songs at the bottom and deal with the painfully slow drag to the top of the playlist.


Apple's just going to keep making these changes for the sake of change, and not with the intent of making things better/easier.

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Where did Edit Playlist go in 12.7 iTunes?

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