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Where did iTunes (podcast) Playlists go in iOS 11?

Prior to iOS 11, at the top of the “My Podcasts” section of the AppLe Podcasts app there was a “iTunes Playlists” item which took you to a screen that lists the playlists created and maintained in iTunes. It appears to be gone in iOS 11.


I’ve come to depend on that because every weekend I build a podcast playlist for the week on my Mac, sync to my iPhone, and I’m all set for long drivrd, etc. without having to fiddle with my iPhone.


I really hope I’m just looking in the wrong place, but I’ve scoured the Podcasts app and it seems to have disappeared. Does anyone have a suggestion?

Posted on Sep 20, 2017 9:43 PM

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Posted on Sep 26, 2017 2:13 PM

Yes. It's utterly useless. Please go to the feedback page and let them know you want the old functionality back. I've been on the phone with an apple support person twice, now, and ... they don't really have much of an idea how people are using their app. So we need to tell them. He encouraged me to get as many people as possible to complain so they'll know it's an issue.


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Nov 10, 2017 12:27 AM in response to sharifromnsw

It's even more disappointing since the word podcast was crated as a combination of Apple's "iPod" and "broadcast". Apple's original implementation of podcasts provided users with an agile and easy to manage way to organise automated playlists that easily let users determine the play order in as many ways as they chose. In fact it was Apple's implementation of this and the easy management between iTunes and iPods (and later iPhones and all iOS devices) that made podcasts popular in the first place.


But for some reason, Apple has decided to "improve" the user experience by:

1. Introducing the "Podcast" app which removed the functionality of podcast playlists from the music app and gave users two apps to fiddle with rather than the one simplified platform. I used to flip between music and podcasts seamlessly from the original music app, but now it's a fiddle, and iPhones with only 4 positions on the dock bar means you have to always go to a home screen to switch between podcasts and music.

2. In a later version of iTunes, Apple removed the ability to play podcast playlists as playlists - you can only play a playlist by selecting a single podcast which stops when finished. I have no idea how this improved the user experience???

3. While you can still create podcast playlists in iTunes, in a later version iTunes apple changed the keyword lists of podcast assets, but did not change the corresponding options on the playlist fields. For example, the keyword "author" has been added to the podcast metadata files, but can you find this field in the iTunes playlist sort fields? Nope. Another fail from Apple.

4. And now with iOS 11 Apple have crippled the playlist completely and expect users to create stations which do not enable users to control individual feeds by any number of parameters in any way close to the way playlists did.


I believe that this will become a classic business school case study of how Apple took a great and popular product and broke it by implementing a whole series of unpopular and indeed unnecessary fixes.


What a shame to be mourning the loss of a great platform.


p.s. Another Apple iOS fail was removing app management from iTunes. Now users who manage a whole bunch of iOS devices (like me with 10 in the household) need to fiddle with each individual device rather than a simple plug into the master iTunes to manage the apps on those devices. Talk about take simplicity and make it complicated. Steve Jobs must be spinning in his grave!

Nov 17, 2017 8:53 AM in response to K Mac

It doesn't seem to matter what you name it. I named mine QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ and it would find it one time, and then after that, it wouldn't ever see it, or maybe it would RANDOMLY see it about 30% of the time...


I finally just went with Overcast. It's nowhere near as full-featured as the OLD Podcasts app was (before they "fixed" it), but at least it doesn't crash 30 or 40 times per day.

Nov 19, 2017 6:57 AM in response to Steve Davidson

I'm sooo glad someone else has this issue. Wish I'd come here first before updating my Ipod. I too don't want to stream or download. It's easier to do so from Itunes, connect my Ipod and it's all there. I hate the Station function - it's crap. Can we please sort this so I don't have to use Stations. Itunes used to be fantastic, with each update it gets worse and worse. Really starting to hate it. If I didn't have all my music and playlists on there I'd switch to another programme.

Dec 18, 2017 9:56 AM in response to Steve Davidson

I have found a solution: (I use iTunes in German, hopefully i find the right terms)


Build a podcast playlist as usual and add the podcasts you want.

Select all podcasts of the playlist. Right click in the mark and select "information"

Select the tab "options".

Change "podcasts" to "music"-

The podcasts and the playlist will disappear from "podcasts" and show up in "music" instead.

This will be syncronised to an iphone with no problems.

Dec 18, 2017 11:24 AM in response to heinrichb

Heinrich, that's a good idea, but it won't work for me. I don't listen to podcasts at 1x speed; I listen to them at 2x (otherwise, they are just too slow). Since music should never be played at anything but 1x speed, there is no option to play music any faster. So, reclassifying podcasts as music doesn't really help me.


Some time ago -- and when it was clear that Apple wasn't interested in addressing the problem -- I totally abandoned Apple's Podcasts app. Instead use PodCruncher (an inexpensive podcast player found in the App Store) and build my playlists from within it. I am happy enough with PodCruncher that I will not go back, even if Apple someday fixes Podcasts.

Dec 22, 2017 11:39 AM in response to Steve Davidson

It's so stupid.


Don't know who at Apple thought this was somehow a good idea.


I used to mix and match podcasts in my playlists. Like Smodcast, there's like 4 different shows from that network I would have in one playlist ordered just right using a MOUSE to order them.


Or I put track numbers to my pods and organize them that way. Like for audio files that don't have release dates.


So now if a pod doesn't have a release date it just goes to the bottom of a station. Sure if I want to reorganize I can but that's such an insane pain in the ***. Using the touch screen to drag and drop and scroll through 60 shows in a station.


That is so NOT user friendly where it was before.


Really hope they fix this... but I know they won't.

Jan 1, 2018 12:44 PM in response to Steve Davidson

It took scores of hours over several weeks (at least 10 of them on the phone with Apple) to finally learn my inability to sync my podcasts was a conscious decision made by the development team at Apple.


Bad timing. Family in crisis. I had just made over 100 soothing podcast playlists for night-time terrors and bought additional iPods for other family members.


Why won't podcasts import into music playlists any more? They are simple mp3 files. Tried renaming. Tried moving them in a variety of ways. I finally bought Walkmans. No problem. Both the playlists and the podcasts moved right over with the Sony software. Miss my beautiful iPods and the additional capabilities, but at least sleep easier.


What about people who don't have time to get the truth? They bought the product, fought the problem, feel frustrated and probably a little dumb. What was Apple weighing in this decision? Free podcasts vs iTunes purchases? Additional features to get additional sales?


Now I'm on a mission to post to every news organization and point of sale I can find. People need to be warned that Apple takes more than iPhone speed.

Jan 21, 2018 10:49 PM in response to Steve Davidson

Add my name to list of folks who don't like the new iOS 11 Podcast app. I subscribe to over 50 podcasts in iTunes on my Mac and create playlists there with what I'd like to listen to over the next week while I'm driving. With that many podcasts, I need iTunes to manage the work; I can't do it in iOS. I then sync those playlists to my iPhone and iPad. I used to be able to open the podcasts app in iOS and choose a playlist and off I'd go. Can't do that anymore so I'm trying to find an alternative to the podcast app. I don't really need a "podcast" app - all I ever do with the app is choose a playlist and press play - I don't need the iOS app to do anything 'podcast' related, no downloading or checking for new episodes - just play a playlist. Is there an iOS app out there that can see playlists created in iTunes on Mac that contain podcasts and play them? Simple enough request? Fingers crossed.

Where did iTunes (podcast) Playlists go in iOS 11?

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