Where did iTunes (podcast) Playlists go in iOS 11?

Prior to iOS 11, at the top of the “My Podcasts” section of the AppLe Podcasts app there was a “iTunes Playlists” item which took you to a screen that lists the playlists created and maintained in iTunes. It appears to be gone in iOS 11.


I’ve come to depend on that because every weekend I build a podcast playlist for the week on my Mac, sync to my iPhone, and I’m all set for long drivrd, etc. without having to fiddle with my iPhone.


I really hope I’m just looking in the wrong place, but I’ve scoured the Podcasts app and it seems to have disappeared. Does anyone have a suggestion?

Posted on Sep 20, 2017 9:43 PM

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Posted on Oct 4, 2017 7:03 PM

Kaa, well put, and an excellent demonstration of the point. By doing a search on the unique Playlist name I created in iTunes, the iPhone's Spotlight Search finds it, identifies it as being in the Podcasts app, and by tapping on the item in Spotlight, I can access the Playlist as before. However, when looking for that same, uniquely-named Playlist within the Podcasts app, I'm totally out of luck -- it's not there. See image.User uploaded file


I think that demonstrates nicely that the Playlist is there, but someone at Apple forgot to provide the UI to access it. But this tip makes it possible to use Podcasts again (albeit with a bit more difficulty -- but I'll take it!).

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Oct 4, 2017 7:03 PM in response to Kaa

Kaa, well put, and an excellent demonstration of the point. By doing a search on the unique Playlist name I created in iTunes, the iPhone's Spotlight Search finds it, identifies it as being in the Podcasts app, and by tapping on the item in Spotlight, I can access the Playlist as before. However, when looking for that same, uniquely-named Playlist within the Podcasts app, I'm totally out of luck -- it's not there. See image.User uploaded file


I think that demonstrates nicely that the Playlist is there, but someone at Apple forgot to provide the UI to access it. But this tip makes it possible to use Podcasts again (albeit with a bit more difficulty -- but I'll take it!).

Nov 15, 2017 12:28 PM in response to Steve Davidson

Shame on Apple for ruining a useful feature. I hope they fix it SOON. Stations cannot replace a playlist because you can't control the order in which episodes play. Be sure to tell Apple how you feel about this at Product Feedback - Apple


In the meantime, I have found a workaround for playing my podcast playlists!


Make your playlist as usual on your computer. Give it a distinctive name, and then sync your iphone as usual.


Now, on your iPhone's home screen, pull down from the center of the screen to bring up the search screen. Type the name of your playlist, or a few distinctive letters from it. Your playlist will appear in the search results. Tap it, and it will open in the Podcasts app, and the podcasts in the playlist will populate the Up Next list, and they will Autoplay!


Unfortunately, if you pause your playlist and open other apps, or even have your phone sleep for a while, your playlist will again go into hiding, so you will have to do the search all over again.


But at least you will have Autoplay of your carefully crafted playlist for the current session.

Oct 4, 2017 6:51 PM in response to Boardgamedad

Nope. Before answering, please go to iTunes and create a podcast playlist and then sync to see what we're all talking about.


In iTunes, creating playlists is a snap, especially when organizing large lists of podcasts. These playlists are no longer syncing to or appearing on the iPhone. If it's good enough for songs in Music, why isn't it good enough for podcast episodes? I don't want to stream, and I want my long list of shows and episodes to play in a particular order without spending an hour organizing them on my little phone screen.


You can only create an Up Next queue on the phone, not in iTunes. It's cumbersome and takes far too long.


If I create a station and organize it in iTunes, that doesn't sync to my phone like a playlist, either. Make either of those work like playlists, and maybe there's an argument to switch over. A this point, it's just a missing feature. This has happened in previous releases, so I hope they'll fix it. Again.


Between this and Siri's changes that force me to look at my phone while driving, I'm finding my iPhone to be more and more of a hassle.

Oct 4, 2017 6:49 PM in response to cyberbiker

I have explained this to you repeatedly, and either you're just not reading the responses, or you refuse to accept that you're wrong. Once again:


iTunes Playlists have been working under iOS 10 for a long time. I know because I, like MANY other people in these threads, have been USING them for a very long time. Yes, they appear ON THE STATIONS SCREEN (as I've explained), but they were a separate thing that is not a station. At the top of the stations screen, it said, plainly, "iTunes Playlists >" and when we clicked on that, it would take us to a listing of all of our playlists. Which, once again, are separate from and different than Stations. Completely and utterly different.


iTunes IS STILL SYNCHING them to our phones, but the app is no longer showing them to us. I know THIS because if I do a search on my iPhone for the name of one of my playlists, sometimes (not every time, because the search function also blows) it shows my playlist, and if I select it, it opens it in the Podcasts App, and it's exactly what I've been describing to you for post after post. A PLAYLIST, not a station. When you play an item out of that playlist, it then shows the REST of them in the "up next" queue, and it plays them automatically without having to fiddle with the phone.


Please, PLEASE stop explaining to us that "stations replaced playlists" because they very pointedly did not. Until iOS 11, and we are hoping that they put the functionality that was still there before we upgraded to iOS 11, and has been for a very long time.


Do as Saudoso68 suggests above, and go into iTunes and create a podcast playlist. Give it a unique name that iPhone's search can find, and just TRY it.

Oct 23, 2017 2:06 PM in response to Kaa

Kaa, this (image) is a view of the PodCruncher Smart Playlists screen. it is fairly intuitive (e.g., those items with the right-facing arrow have additional options) and it didn’t take long to learn.


I don’t know your specific requirements so I can’t say if it will solve your need. From what I recall from earlier in this thread, you have a very elaborate suite of playlists. My setup is simple by comparison, and this does the trick for me.


I don’t recall the price (funny that the App Store doesn’t show it once you have purchased something) but it couldn’t have been much more than a cup of coffee — probably worth the investment just to find out.


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Dec 18, 2017 11:24 AM in response to heinrichb

Heinrich, that's a good idea, but it won't work for me. I don't listen to podcasts at 1x speed; I listen to them at 2x (otherwise, they are just too slow). Since music should never be played at anything but 1x speed, there is no option to play music any faster. So, reclassifying podcasts as music doesn't really help me.


Some time ago -- and when it was clear that Apple wasn't interested in addressing the problem -- I totally abandoned Apple's Podcasts app. Instead use PodCruncher (an inexpensive podcast player found in the App Store) and build my playlists from within it. I am happy enough with PodCruncher that I will not go back, even if Apple someday fixes Podcasts.

Sep 26, 2017 2:13 PM in response to KristiBR

Yes. It's utterly useless. Please go to the feedback page and let them know you want the old functionality back. I've been on the phone with an apple support person twice, now, and ... they don't really have much of an idea how people are using their app. So we need to tell them. He encouraged me to get as many people as possible to complain so they'll know it's an issue.


Product Feedback - Apple

Oct 5, 2017 11:47 PM in response to cyberbiker

I don't think you're challenging me. I think you're not getting what we're telling you. OK. Let's try this.


I have smart playlists for every single one of the 350 or so podcasts I subscribe to. When I subscribe to a podcast, I download all available episodes. Each of them goes into a separate smart playlist, sorted from oldest to newest, by the podcast name. I then use the checkbox to determine what does and does not get synced to the phone. Stations allow me to select the most recent 1, 2, 3...10...or ALL. There is no "allow me to select an arbitrary number of episodes, randomly," in stations. Useless.


Now, I like categories of podcasts. I put them into Fiction Audiodrama, Fiction, Fiction Audiobook, Fiction Anthology, News & Politics, Entertainment, Education, Science, Writing, True Crime/Weird, and Video. These are podcast folders, and I put the playlists of each individual podcast into those folders by topic. You can DO this with stations...but it's all you can do. Keep reading.


But that wasn't enough, because I was never hearing my CURRENT episodes because i had to make it through all the old ones first. So I created another smart playlist called "Current" that contained all the ones released within the last five days, say. Then I created playlists parallel to the ones mentioned above, but told the smart playlist to only contain the ones that were in BOTH "Science" (for example) and "Current" so I could listen to all the current ones first, then the archives.


There is so, SO much functionality in playlists that stations does not allow us to do.


I have a science podcast called Nature. It has episodes called Nature Futures which are not science-related, but are instead science-fiction flash fiction. So I want THOSE episodes in the Fiction playlist, not the Science playlist.


I have smart playlists that separate Nature into TWO playlists: one for the normal content, and one for "Futures." The normal content contains all episodes except the ones that are ALSO in "Futures." One goes in Science and the other in Fiction. Works BEAUTIFULLY in playlists. Can't do it in Stations.


But sometimes, I like to listen by length. Because I have 10 minutes to kill and I don't want to have to search through and find one that's 10 minutes. So I have playlists which separate my podcasts by time. < 5 minutes, 5-10, 10-15, 15-20, 20-30, 30-45, 45-60, and > 60 minutes. Can stations do that? No.


How about a Station that says, as I've described above, "All the contents of this other station, EXCEPT the ones that are in a third station"? Nope.


All of that works perfectly fine in playlists. And, up until I upgraded to iOS 11, it all synced to my phone and was visible to me in the app. I could select a playlist, touch the top entry, and have it play them back to back with no pauses. I did not have to spend a half hour searching through all the uploaded episodes on my phone and manually duplicating one of my playlists -- just ONE of them, mind you -- using the asinine "Up Next" queue that they so GRACIOUSLY allowed us to have. Until they decide we don't need that, too.


We're not asking for Stations. Stations are useless to me and many other people who do what I do. We want the functionality back. The functionality we relied on.


The support person I spoke to told me point blank after he routed my question to the development team that Playlists were REMOVED from the iOS 11 on purpose. These are not "glitches." These are desired functionality that worked up until we upgraded to iOS 11 and now has been unceremoniously removed without any replacement. Saying "stations replaces that functionality" is like saying "Have a cup of Brussels sprouts instead of the double-Dutch fudge ice cream; they're exactly the same thing." Although I'm suspicious now that someone else pointed out you can still search for your playlist names and, assuming it finds them, which it does about 30% of the time, if you select it, it opens the playlist app and allows you to play them like the iOS 10 version, except "invisible." The app knows about it until you back out of it, then it forgets. So it sounds to me like someone took out the REFERENCES to it in the app, but left the functionality intact.


I've TRIED to duplicate the 300 to 350 or so playlists I have in iTunes on my phone. That was the first thing I tried. God, I spent over 5 hours trying desperately. Stations are useless for me, and many, many other people.


I'm not deleting 350 playlists and starting over from scratch especially when I've been told by someone at Apple that the functionality has been removed. What we are trying to do is get them to put back the functionality. EITHER they need to put playlists back OR they need to make Stations useful in some form.


Does that help?

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