External Hard Drive incredibly slow after High Sierra

Absolutely fuming isn't the word, ever since Apple stopped making us pay for updates they have been buggy garbage.


Rant over: I'm experiencing a very slow external HDD which is used for files after this update. If I do not have it connected, my iMac works fine. As soon as I connect it and want to browse, it freezes a lot, takes an age to load contents, sometimes even taking 2 minutes. I thought maybe it was because it is indexing, I left it for several hours but it still wont work properly.

Activity Monitor shows high CPU usage with kernal task & iconserviceagent when trying to load these folders, the HDD also makes a lot of noise as if it's under high load.


I've tried upgrading it to APFS which can be done on a HDD, no idea why people say it cannot be done as it has been done with mine! - still no improvement.



Really no idea why I trusted another update, think i'll leave it next time, Sierra brought bugs and High Sierra has totally ruined my computer. My iMac is 21.5 late 2013 with an SSD upgrade. My external HDD is a 3TB Seagate HDD.


Any help, or people with the same issues?

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Posted on Sep 26, 2017 6:08 AM

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Posted on Sep 26, 2017 5:03 PM

You can try clearing the icon cache:

Triple-click anywhere in the line below on this page to select it:

/Library/Caches/com.apple.iconservices.store

Right-click or control-click the highlighted line and select

Services Reveal in Finder (or just Reveal)

from the contextual menu.* A folder should open with an item selected. Move the selected item to the Trash. You may be prompted for your administrator login password. Restart the computer and empty the Trash.

*If you don't see the contextual menu item, copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C. In the Finder, select

Go Go to Folder...

from the menu bar and paste into the box that opens by pressing command-V. You won't see what you pasted because a line break is included. Press return.

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Sep 26, 2017 6:42 AM in response to J4MMYz

Hello J4MMYz,

It sounds like you have some other software conflict. No one can speculate about what may or may not have been the issue with your external hard drive since you have converted it to APFS. If you do not already have a backup of this disk on HFS+, I strongly urge you do drop whatever else you might be doing and make that backup right now.

Sep 26, 2017 7:27 AM in response to J4MMYz

J4MMYz wrote:


Thats a joy, Time Capsule filled up yesterday, for some reason unknown to me I decided to wipe it and order a new HDD which comes Friday. Thats whats concerning me now as I do not have a backup so if something goes wrong im done for.


What is the best course of action? Hopefully Apple will have a fix for this?

The best course of action is to stop posting on the internet, drive to the nearest place where you can buy an external hard drive, and back up all of your data. Time Capsule is a nice convenience when it is working properly, but there is no substitute for a good backup drive.


No, Apple is not going to fix your 3rd party hard drive.

Sep 28, 2017 4:49 AM in response to DNSBRU

If you scroll up on this paw there is a link to the bug reporting. You’ll need to register for a developer account but it’s easy you sign in with your Apple ID. Just explain what’s happening, add some screenshots especially the ones in activity monitor showing when your performance is hit what’s going on. Would strongly recommend doing that report we need this sorting

Oct 9, 2017 12:11 PM in response to J4MMYz

HDDs fail constantly, and at random times. It may be coincidental with your install of High Sierra, but it's still as likely as anything. Don't discount: test and discover. As usual, science is the only light in the darkness.


Data point: I have 3 large drives connected to different High Sierra Macs. No issues at all, FWIW.

I also don't trust spinning hard drives any further than I can throw them, and assume that any of them can go belly-up at any time with no warning. And sometimes, they do.

Oct 10, 2017 4:14 AM in response to J4MMYz

Hi,


Thanks for bringing this up, I'm having serious iconsrviceagent issues.


I'm on a 2012 Mac Pro, High Sierra Os on SSD plus three internal HDD's. My main HDD holds my music and movies (with custom icons). My iconsrviceagent has been ramping up to 20 gigs of memory causing serious freezes/ slowdowns.


At this point after reading the comments, I ejected said HDD and everything is fine. Something's definitely going on. Either the icons, or some issues between APFS (SSD) and Mac Journaled (HDD's).

Nov 6, 2017 1:37 PM in response to J4MMYz

CONFIRMED


I have the same issues. Plugging in any of several external WD gig+ drives make High Sierra slow to an intolerable speed (and we are talking maybe 40 minutes to move a file speed). Take the same drives and plug them into Sierra, El Capitan, life is fine... everything runs as expected.


I have two desktops running High Sierra, and both won't budge once there is an external drive plugged in. Drive health on all computers and external devices is excellent.

Nov 18, 2017 3:28 AM in response to J4MMYz

Hello I'm on iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015), after the installation of high sierra, external HDDs that contains files with custom icons load their icons incredibly slow. About 1 icon every 20 seconds (which means 233 minutes in my case). I have hundred of files. While icons are loading iconservicesagent uses 35% (sometimes 160%-190%) of the CPU (so 4 hours of wasted CPU energy and usage slowing down other important mac processes). Every time I restart the mac the icons need to be loaded again. I've read this post but I don't really think that the solution is to delete the icons... instead Apple should support us and fix the problem. The reason why we use icons is to recognise files faster and easier (thanks S.J.). Hopefully Apple didn't change its point of view about that philosophy?

Nov 19, 2017 4:32 AM in response to J4MMYz

I have investigated a similar problem. What I found(can be replicated easily) is the presence of large mkv files.

On a mounted disk the problem does appear as soon as you open in the finder the folder containing the mkv.

On AFP or SMB shared folders, the problem is even worse as it comes every time you mount the folder.

If you have a dozen of large mkv, the mac will use all your network bandwidth until it has read each file completely (100GB of network trafic if you have five 20GB) mkv then become usable again.

you then unmount the network shared folder and mount it again, and high sierra kernel will start again to overload your network as before. It doesn't remember anything.

The worst system update I ever got with apple so far. (I'm only using apple hardware since the apple ][ and I've brought over 30 macs over the time) and now that Apple make it very difficult to go back to the previous os version, it's really a nightmare.

Nov 19, 2017 1:30 PM in response to J4MMYz

This is exactly what I'm experiencing. I use movie poster jpegs for custom icons on all my movie files. After OS update my external drives (three separate drives with movie files) take forever to load. Is there a way to delete all custom icons at once. I won't do hundreds of files one at a time! BTW, my icons now load as a square stretched copy of original jpeg. Nov. 19, is there a fix yet? Oh yeah, I almost forgot, on some files it says something like "verifying file" before it opens. It's without a doubt High Sierra.

Nov 19, 2017 4:34 PM in response to nick12202

Created a bug report for what? The loading times have been fixed in the latest BETA update and will be released publicly soon.


If you reported the bug about the square custom icons then that’s great as I also have, the more of us that do it the more likely it will get fixed. If anyone reading this could file a bug report about that issue it would be a great help.

Dec 12, 2017 3:39 AM in response to UrbanKaos

I can confirm for Ferko that it is indeed fixed in the latest version 10.13.2 which has now been released.


However, the creation of NEW custom icons is still bugged, they display as square and squashed, not rectangular in the same dimensions as the video itself. Very weird however that already made custom icons from before High Sierra update still copy and paste with exact same dimensions, it doesn't resize them square so it's clearly a bug with the creation of new ones, and nothing seems to be able to get around it. Seems to me like the whole of this was a pointless fix if new custom icons wont work properly, in that case i'd rather of deleted all my custom icons (but i'd rather not) to fix that performance issue, but now that is fixed it's sort of in vein due to new custom icons not displaying properly!


I have filed a bug report to Apple on November 5th - I have had no reply back and have little faith they will show any attention to this since I got attention straight away when I first filed this issue about performance, and have had nothing so far with this issue, same to another issue I filed with them 2 months ago that has been around since Sierra, so I am doubting this.


Everyone has the issue, so please file a bug report - it does not take long, it raises awareness for this issue and will hopefully get it fixed. I have linked Apple to this thread again so they can see our feedback about this, so to everyone that has noticed this issue please comment below and confirm.

Dec 12, 2017 11:49 AM in response to J4MMYz

It's definitely a bug with the custom thumbnails. I even tried cropping the photo (which is something I never used to need to do) and it still appeared square and stretched. When I made my initial bug report, I included both issues (the thumbnail issue and the slow loading time) and know others here mentioned both in their reports as well. It's one of those things that should be an incredibly easy fix.

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