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Boot Camp driver to access APFS and/or HFS+ volumes?

Good morning, all!


- MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014), w/256 GB Flash Storage

- High Sierra (10.13.0) / Windows 10 (build 1703) (partition size: 206 GB, formatted as APFS)

- Boot Camp (build 6.0.6136) (partition size: 50 GB, formatted as NTFS)


Significant issues with Boot Camp access to HFS+ volumes, have existed since the release of Windows 10. With the introduction of APFS, the situation has become worse:


1. The Apple-provided HFS+ driver, still seems not to function under Windows 10 (especially 64-bit). However, when selecting a startup disk via the Boot Camp control panel, HFS+ startup volumes are visible. There are documented workarounds for the missing Apple functionality, as well as the 3rd-party solution MacDrive.


2. As of the date of this posting, there is currently no Apple-provided APFS driver--regardless of the Windows OS version installed with Boot Camp. Also, when selecting a startup disk via the Boot Camp control panel, APFS startup volumes are NOT visible. 3rd-party workarounds are few and far between, and do not seem to be well supported. With APFS having existed for developers for more than a year now, this does not bode well.

MacBook Pro with Retina display, Windows 10, null

Posted on Sep 26, 2017 7:31 AM

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Sep 26, 2017 9:22 AM in response to MB Johnson

MB Johnson wrote:



Significant issues with Boot Camp access to HFS+ volumes, have existed since the release of Windows 10. With the introduction of APFS, the situation has become worse:


1. The Apple-provided HFS+ driver, still seems not to function under Windows 10 (especially 64-bit). However, when selecting a startup disk via the Boot Camp control panel, HFS+ startup volumes are visible. There are documented workarounds for the missing Apple functionality, as well as the 3rd-party solution MacDrive.


There is a workaround for HFS+, but none for CoreStorage or APFS. The HFS+ volume shown in BC Control Panel is not discovered using AppleHFS.sys/AppleMNT.sys.



2. As of the date of this posting, there is currently no Apple-provided APFS driver--regardless of the Windows OS version installed with Boot Camp. Also, when selecting a startup disk via the Boot Camp control panel, APFS startup volumes are NOT visible. 3rd-party workarounds are few and far between, and do not seem to be well supported. With APFS having existed for developers for more than a year now, this does not bode well.

It is unlikely that there will be a Windows APFS driver. CoreStorage does not have a driver either. From Apple File System Guide , the only promising statement is

Is APFS open source?

An open source implementation is not available at this time. Apple plans to document and publish the APFS volume format specification.

Nov 21, 2017 8:40 PM in response to MB Johnson

Hello. I am Jiho Park and Photographer based in Korea.

I am using many Apple Devices and loving it all the times for editing many photo files.


I have a huge problems. and I want to notice you.

After I updated to IOS10.13 on my Laptop macbookPro15",

Then It's impossible to connect my macfiles from Windows8 with bootcamp.

I am searching to solve this problem. So there is many people with complaint around here Korea.

I think it must to be supported from apple team.

Possibly considering for next Version.

Many Korean people is hopping this solution.

Thanks.

Nov 22, 2017 4:33 AM in response to JPTMT

You may want to consider moving files to a FAT32 or an HFS+ file system which can be read using Apple HFS drivers. If your Mac is older than 2012 models, you should use an external disk. For later models, any partitioning of the internal disk must be done prior to installing Windows. The advantage of an HFS+ file system is that it can be backed up by Time Machine.

Jan 1, 2018 11:13 AM in response to MB Johnson

I was facing the same issue.

I use Windows 10 using NTFS and wanted to access my files on macOS High Sierra which has the new APFS file system. So, I researched a while back and came across a new software made by Paragon Software called "APFS For Windows". I've been using it and it works great!

However, its a free preview version available for download now and can only read files from an APFS drive. Their customer service team let me know that a full version with read & write file access is currently being developed and will be available to buy soon in the near future.

Its not available like that yet on their website, it's a hidden link at:

https://backstage.paragon-software.com/home/apfs-windows/

You can download the free preview to try it out till they launch the full version.

Let me know if my suggestion helped solve your issue.

Boot Camp driver to access APFS and/or HFS+ volumes?

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