Boot Camp vs. APFS

The new file system APFS of macOS 10.13 High Sierra can't be read by Windows. So Boot Camp-users can't switch from Windows to macOS easily. Apple recommends a workaround by using the Startup Manager.

>> How to switch between Windows and macOS in macOS High Sierra - Apple Support <<


This workaround isn't applicable for those like me, who have upgraded their Mac Pros (5,1 in my case) to a more powerful NVIDIA GPU, because Apples ongoing lack of support for the NVIDIA DRIVER means we can't see any of the Mac EFI features like the Startup Manager.


Am I the only Mac Pro user that uses such a configuration today?

Mac Pro, macOS Sierra (10.12.6)

Posted on Sep 30, 2017 3:31 PM

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Oct 14, 2017 1:26 PM in response to CyrillWolf

CyrillWolf wrote:


2. Loss of ability to switch to Mac partition on boot in Boot Camp Control Panel. I didn't even have the choice of NOT converting the MacOS SSD when High Sierra was installed. Wasn't expecting the volume to go AWOL from Boot Camp Control Panel in Windows.

I installed HS on an external volume, which supports HFS for HS. There is a workaround - Using the macOS High Sierra OS installer’s startosinstall tool to avoid APFS conversion | Der Flounder .


Wireless keyboard means I have to have a second keyboard to execute key combo on boot now. FAIL

This should not be the case. Alt/Option from BT keyboard should work.

3. Ditto on lack of Apple-supported nVidia drivers.

The WHQL nVidia drivers work on Macs, for example on a GT750m on a late 2013 rMBP.


With Apple eventually replacing Intel CPUs in their Macs with in-house developed alternatives, Boot Camp feels not long for this world. That likely means my next computer won't be a Mac.

It is very expensive to do such things, for example the PPC-to-Intel transition was not very easy. There is also a need to support older warranties. Windows still uses AMD and Intel CPUs, but the AMD share is not as significant as Intel. Bulk usage reduce Apple's cost. It would be exceptional decision by Apple. Apple uses Intel chipsets in iPhones to offset Qualcomm licensing issues.

Oct 14, 2017 12:42 PM in response to Tohu

I have a final generation cheese grater Mac Pro (Win7 x64 Boot Camp), and ran into a couple fun problems with APFS that I didn't know before upgrade to High Sierra. Apple software is definitely going downhill.

1. No indication that Time Machine wouldn't be able to read/write to an APFS volume until AFTER said volume was converted. FAIL

2. Loss of ability to switch to Mac partition on boot in Boot Camp Control Panel. I didn't even have the choice of NOT converting the MacOS SSD when High Sierra was installed. Wasn't expecting the volume to go AWOL from Boot Camp Control Panel in Windows. Wireless keyboard means I have to have a second keyboard to execute key combo on boot now. FAIL

3. Ditto on lack of Apple-supported nVidia drivers.

With Apple eventually replacing Intel CPUs in their Macs with in-house developed alternatives, Boot Camp feels not long for this world. That likely means my next computer won't be a Mac.

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