Clean install tips High Sierra

Hi Everyone,


I'm considering a clean install for high sierra. This will be the first clean install in over 10 years.


I have a 2TB Macbook Pro 2017 and only about 1TB in use.


Would it be faster for me to do the following?


Step 1: Time machine back up... just in case...


Step 2: Syne my KeyChain to icloud.


Step 3: Create a second partition with 800GB


Step 4: Install High Sierra on the new partition.


Step 5, copy over the following folders

A: Documents folder

B: Folders from my Desktop

C: Movies, Music, and Pictuers folders


Step 6: Once all my data files are copied, do I delete my original partition


Step 7: Remove the partition (original partition)


Step 8: Make the new High Sierra partition full size


Step 9: Reinstall applications from original sources


Are steps 5 and 6 a good path? It's so much faster to copy large amounts of data on the same SSD, but I'm not sure if I'll run into snags.


What am I over looking? What about my e-mail (sent mail folder) which I don't want to lose.... Where is that info stored?


Any tips or "watch outs" on this strategy are welcomed....

Thx

Ethan-

MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2017), macOS Sierra (10.12.5), Touch Bar 2TB 16GB

Posted on Sep 30, 2017 5:49 PM

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Sep 30, 2017 6:19 PM in response to Ethan Becker

Basic Steps for Upgrading OS X

How to get macOS Sierra - Apple Support

  1. Personally, I would install on a freshly erased disk or partition.
  2. Format using HFS+. Do not use APFS just yet.
  3. Download the High Sierra installer from the App Store.
  4. Create a bootable USB stick for safety.
  5. Boot from the USB stick using OPTION boot.
  6. Follow directions to install High Sierra.


Bootable USB Installers


First, review this introductory article: Create a bootable installer for OS X Mavericks or Yosemite - Apple Support. Second, see this How To outline for creating a bootable El Capitan installer. Simply replace the Terminal command with the one from the preceding article by copying it into the Terminal window. You will need an 8GB or larger USB flash drive that has been partitioned and formatted for use with OS X.


Drive Partition and Format


  1. Open Disk Utility in the Utilities' folder.
  2. After Disk Utility loads select the drive (out-dented entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the side list.
  3. Click on the Erase tab in the Disk Utility toolbar. Name the drive, "MyVolume". <---- IMPORTANT!
  4. In the drop down panel set the partition scheme to GUID. Set the Format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.)
  5. Click on the Apply button and wait for the Done button to activate. When it does click on it.
  6. Quit Disk Utility.


Create Installer


Open the Terminal in the Utilities' folder. Choose the appropriate command line (in red) depending upon what OS X installer you want. Paste that entire command line from below at the Terminal's prompt:


Command for macOS High Sierra:

sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ High\ Sierra\ Beta.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/MyVolume --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ macOS\ High\ Sierra\ Beta.app

Command for macOS Sierra:

sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Sierra.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/MyVolume --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Sierra.app

Command for El Capitan:

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/MyVolume --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan.app

Command for Yosemite:

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Yosemite.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/MyVolume --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Yosemite.app

Command for Mavericks:

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/MyVolume --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app


Press RETURN. You will be asked for your admin password. It will not echo to the Terminal window. Then press RETURN again. Wait for the return of the Terminal prompt signifying the process has completed. It takes quite some time to finish. Be patient.


Boot Using OPTION key


  1. Restart the computer.
  2. Immediately after the chime press and hold down the "OPTION" key.
  3. Release the key when the Boot Manager screen appears.
  4. Select the disk icon of the USB stick.
  5. Click on the arrow button below the icon.

Nov 19, 2017 12:36 PM in response to rafaelalvesgb

APFS currently only works on SSDs. It does not fully support Time Machine. Does not work with Fusion Drives. Given that it is so new and incomplete I would not recommend using it. If your startup disk is an SSD and you must have APFS, then be sure to turn off TRIM if you have enabled it. Keep in mind that all you think you know about Disk Utility you will find does not work on APFS formatted disks unless you learn to use the Terminal.

Nov 19, 2017 1:48 PM in response to Kappy

Hmmmm... This is interesting.


I am having this trouble: Re: macOS High Sierra – Huge System Storage. So, once Apple Support said I should reinstall macOS – because they said there is no other solution for this problem – I came here to learn how to make a clean instalation.


Do you think this might be a consequence of this incompatibility of AFS?


My MacBook Pro is new and top of the line (bought in March/2017), but I used Time Machine with backups originated on my oldest MacBook (White, Late 2009).

Nov 20, 2017 1:21 PM in response to rafaelalvesgb

I do not know. What I do know is there are downsides to APFS especially if you don't know how to fix problems when they arise. I know that once you create and use an APFS formatted disk you will not be able to easily convert it back to HFS+. I know APFS should not be used on HDDs or Fusion Drives. And, I know that APFS is not recommended for use on a Time Machine backup HDD or SSD.


As a general rule, you should not restore or clone any system files from an earlier version of OS X than the one that came pre-installed on a new computer. So, yes, it's possible what you did may have contributed to your problem depending on what you restored from the Time Machine backup.

Nov 20, 2017 3:14 PM in response to Kappy

Apple Support said its not possible, in my case, do something to fix this problem. They suggest a brand new installation (I already made two instalations over).


Do you think if I do this, but restore only my personal files with TimeMachine, may help or solve the problem?


I do not know what to do. For one side, I think this may solve the problem of storage and heating. For other, I do not think if this will solve the problem at all, once I've reading about a lot of High Sierra problems.

Nov 21, 2017 7:02 AM in response to Kappy

The only problem is I'm in Brasilia (Brazil's capital). In my country, the Genius Bar only exists in two cities: São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro (because they are economics capitals).


By phone, technical support was able to understand my problem, because I sent them some images of what is happening and explain the situation. But they understood the only solution would be to format the MacBook Pro and make a fresh/clean installation.


But I've reading about many problems of AFS, which still make me have doubts if a clean installation can solve the problem, specially because all my files are backed up in Time Machine (which it seems AFS does not support).


For me (I'm a lawyer), the most difficult part is reinstall all the drivers and programs to work in Judiciary (in Brazil, we are migrating physical process to eletronic ones). So, make a clean installation is not a easy job (I have to format the ssd, make a clean installation of macOS High Sierra, reinstall drivers and apps, restore files from a backup and hope – only hope – this can solve all problems).

Jan 1, 2018 1:36 PM in response to Kappy

sir,

I have a problem with the installation of windows 7 on my late 2011 MBP after installing High Sierra 10.13.2

I am using the late 2011 MBP with a crucial SSD & crucial 16 gb RAM.

i have formate the SSD using the Mac OS Extended ( Journaled ) & GUID options.

I installed the High Sierra with a bootable I have made.

I start of with bootcamp, installing a DVD of Win 7 from a external drive.

on the re boot I get a black screen with something like a dos prompt flashing in the right top corner.


please could you help

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