Hi,
often people here advise against using App Cleaner, Zapper and the like because they may throw away essential system files with the app and cause problems - but the App Sweep function of Hazel is fine, I guess?
thanks
MacBook Pro, OS X El Capitan (10.11.6), nonretina, i7, 4GB RAM, SSD
"often people here advise against using App Cleaner, Zapper and the like because they may throw away essential system files with the app and cause problems"
Especially when you use them to uninstall a large complicated app: then too much may be deleted.
"but the App Sweep function of Hazel is fine, I guess?"
Why should that be any different (as Esquared already said too).
If this is the Hazel where you are talking about:
then I strongly suggest not to spill money on it.
hm, Hazel may for example have a better way of choosing which file belongs to only the app and which not. It's about these apps you just trash and don't need to install or uninstall. Maybe I should develop some tolerance to things long gone having some files in Preferences or Application Support.
Apps that I needed to install I won't trash. (Except I did trash Google Earth Pro and the updater because the updater would start up, keep running forever and then say it can't be updated, every day. so I installed the version without the updater).
uh-oh. well I have spilt money on it. What does it mess up? Right now I just use it to move a few files away from Desktop (because I can target Desktop when saving with cmd-D the easiest from all apps, and tag them with DFX) into different folders as soon as I tag the files.
But I could also use Default Folder X or Yoink to move them faster. It's more about digging around in folder structures that I forgot how exactly they were organized.
what are you using to manage files in folders?
Hello schmunzelmonster,
Apple now includes clean up features in Sierra and High Sierra. You don't need any 3rd party software. I don't know how well Hazel is going to run on a modern operating system. The web site prominently displays an endorsement from the tuaw web site that has not been in existence for several years,
Hello JD, the Noodlesoft website says "2017 Noodlesoft", so it is probable that they did not have many endorsements since a long time....😁
I am strongly against Noodlesoft software but it will probably work in HS and S
Forum blog:
Hazel 4.2.1Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:56 am • by Mr_Noodle
okay, thank you- maybe I can try Sierra, have held it off bc of nvalt initially (works now i think) and some CS6 adobe things and I have only 4 GB of RAM . And a mid-2013 mbp. High Sierra might be too much though?
found (even from etresoft), Sierra would be fine on 4 GB, 8 would be better but 4 is fine. So if I update to Sierra I could have Hazel-like features inbuilt and won't even need Hazel. (if I upgrade I will uninstall Hazel before though to avoid problems.)
thanks everyone!
Sierra will run on 4GB of Ram, High Siera also.
The more apps are running at the same time the more ram is used.
The Ram management in Mac OS is different from Windows.
In mac OS the Ram management is "hampered" by apps that "free up" ram, so the effect of these apps is slowing down the speed.
Hazel may free up disk space by removing files in folders, but you can do that yourself.
Hazel may empty caches, and thus free up disk space; but caches are just that: when you empty them instead of OS letting do that, the operation speed slows down: the freed up space will be filled again, that is what caches are for.
and so on and so on.
Thanks, Lexiepex! I won't try to manage RAM or caches and can see the aversion to hazel if that is what it can do as well. I am always surprised by how many things are possible with only 4 GB of RAM, and I do keep 40 GB free on my 256GB SSD and rather plug in an external something. It looks like it's okay to try Sierra or even High Sierra next time I have a weekend, clean install to remove all these old prefs. If it doesn't work, cloning the hard drive back from CCC backup is easy.
Hi Monster,
be aware that High Sierra is not a "normal" upgrade since it also converts the SSD to APFS, which is difficult when you want to go back.
A good place to read something from Mike Bombich why it is wise to wait a bit:
Lex
"what are you using to manage files in folders?"
common sense mostly.
Why should Hazeel be any different? In general it’s much better to use the uninstall procedure the software developer recommends.
would indeed solve the problem. do they have that on the app store? I'll work on it.
thanks for answering!
I have the impression that they don't have that in the Appstore....😁
Thank you! Oh. I better be careful. So, Sierra for now. I've been guinea pig already with ios11, that was plenty of guineapigging. Thanks! I'd love to mark this helpful...
Hazel App Sweep fine? (as opposed to App Zapper, App Cleaner etc.)
