Will I lose iPhoto if I upgrade to High Sierra?

I don't think you can't make blanket statements that all your macs "run iPhoto perfectly regardless of the OS they are running.

Does that mean you think I am not competent to describe my own machines and their performance with iPhoto to you.

I am so sorry to doubt you, goodbye.

FWIW, I have 2 Macs - rMBP with SSD, and an iMac. 100,000+ images, with 3/4 TB in iPhoto, all starred, many in albums. Sorry, not going to re-run my myriad objects to what Photo took AWAY from iPhoto - other than to say I rely on the "it just works" of iPhoto, and its built in star and title/file display along with GPS display. So I'm not going to use a useless-to-me "organizer"/viewer like Photos, and have zero interest in the cloud or anything which iPhotos does not offer. Point taken, it may be one of several Apple "dead ends" for serious photographers and computer users. But Photos is simply not an option for me. (As for editing, iPhotos was wonderful for "quick fixes" and simple shadow lightening, etc., but for serious editing I look and select through star-rated iPhoto "events" and edit with PS.) to

My point, though: Due to how odorous I find Photos, I did not update any of my computers past 10.10 OSX. Despite months of distaste at all the Photos obsequiousness and dismissal of how well iPhoto "just works" as Jobs envisioned it would, well.... I was forced to upgrade one Mac beyond 10.10 in order to use a tax/accounting program. So I bit the bullet, said a prayer, and upgraded my rMBP, with SSD drive and many GB less images than my desktop, and upgraded to High Sierra, directly from 10.10.

I was rather in shock, and very pleasantly. I don't know what might have happened if I updated through each of several upgrades, but with this rMBP, the transition was so seamless I had to double-check that it was truly completely converted. Everything works, including some HTML and FTP programs (32 and 64 bit) I thought surely I'd lose. But wonder of wonders, I quickly saw that my beloved iPhotos is entirely intact, seems even better with the new clean OS and file system. Importing/exporting, editing with external editor, all smooth as silk.

So.... in my case at least, moving from 10.10 Yosemite to High Sierra spared me the anticipated angst of losing iPhoto. It works just fine, better than ever. Yes, the Sword of Damocles indeed is hanging over the heads of once-loyal Apple enthusiasts who don't believe in fixing what wasn't broken with a horrid organizer (not even a built-in star-rating!).

OK, iPhoto dependents may be annihilated in our enjoyment for photography using Apple hardware and "apps", just as Google+ photographers were abandoned and Picasa too. Yes, time marches on. But Photos is just useless to me, as-is.

Anyway, short answer: Yes, you can still (or at least I can still) use iPhotos exactly as before after upgrading from 10.10 directly to High Sierra, with no other updates in between. I can't swear the results would be the same coming from Sierra or another post-Yosemite build. But for me, using High Sierra now includes humming along happily with iPhoto.,

No guarantees. Expect horrid non-support for a beloved product "just because". Be an iPhone. Remember computers and decent Apple photo applications warmly. Cherish the horizontal photo. Remember Apple's origins & fans. YMMV.

in my case at least, moving from 10.10 Yosemite to High Sierra spared me the anticipated angst of losing iPhoto. It works just fine, better than ever

You need to specify that the version of iPhoto is important. You need iPhoto v9.6.1 to run on High Sierra. No other version will run.

I'm no fan of Photos for other reasons but it only takes a few moments to convert star ratings to keywords, and so replicate what you have in iPhoto. Star ratings are not an Exif or IPTC standard, so in that respect Photos is a tad more standard compliant.

Also, as you well know now, iPhoto will stop running or be severely compromised, sooner or later, with an update to the OS at some point. Your strategy of not updating the OS is time limited. Eventually something will cause you to update - the need to run other software in this case, or a hardware failure with your Mac, for instance, means it needs to be replaced. What then? You will need to migrate to some other app - whether it be Photos or something else. So now is the time to select that app, and to make that transition. I've said it before on here: do the job now, when it's just a pain in the rear, or wait until iPhoto no longer runs, and then it's a crisis and a pain in the rear.

As a follow up to my earlier post, here is what the Apple Genius Bar rep told me when I took my macbook pro in for diagnosis. This first thing they said to me is that "you should not even be attempting to run iPhoto on High Sierra". Take that however you want. Clearly Apple's goal is to push users to "Photo" so it may or may not be a statement about compatibility. Plenty of people on this thread seem to be running it fine, however that leads to the next thing to be cautious about. The genius bar representative ran diagnostics on my machine and found that my graphics chip blew. He said that it was not iPhoto directly that blew the graphics chip, but rather any heavy graphics related program would have heated the chip enough to cause it to fail. This is no minor issue since in early 2011 Macbook Pros and some of the 2012's, the graphics chip is on the logic board. The representative said they no longer work on older machines so he sent me to an Apple Authorized dealer. He never mentioned, and maybe he didn't know, that Apple has a known issue with these graphics chips heating up and failing when using intensive programs like iPhoto. It turns out that between Feb. 2015 and Dec. 2016, Apple put a program in place to replace the logic board if your machine experienced failure in that timeframe, or previously. The Apple program was not publicized, and no "recall" letters were ever issued to purchasers of these machines to warn people to have their machines checked. Finding information online is nearly impossible unless you use the correct search words. I only learned this information by speaking with the two separate Apple authorized service providers from whom I was having the work quoted. The new logic board was quoted at close to $700 with $200-300 in labor making the total repair cost close to $1000 from both retailers. I refused to believe that Apple would not step up to fix a problem they recognize is theirs, so I contacted Apple Customer Service for assistance. After being given the run around (saying things like the part is not available after I had it quoted at two stores), essentially the answer was "tough luck". So bottom line is that iPhoto may work fine on your machine with High Sierra, however I suggest that you check your hardware before running it on an older machine.

Beware of self proclaimed "Geniuses" and even more careful of "geniuses" who are only certified by the marketing department

iPhoto 9.6.1 works fine with High Sierra - I use it from time to time for testing, no problems at all

and no one at Apple cares a bit if you use iPhoto or Photos and no one is trying to push you to do anything - Apple discontinued iPhoto over three years ago and it is waht it is, take it or leave it - some day it will quit working with some update but that has not occurred yet

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This first thing they said to me is that "you should not even be attempting to run iPhoto on High Sierra".

That's bunk. Just pure bunk.

Clearly Apple's goal is to push users to "Photo"

Why? It's a free app, they make no money from it unless you buy more Cloud space. So why would they be "pushing" you there?

Meanwhile: back with the bunk:

He said that it was not iPhoto directly that blew the graphics chip, but rather any heavy graphics related program would have heated the chip enough to cause it to fail.

So... one like Photos.app perhaps?

It turns out that between Feb. 2015 and Dec. 2016, Apple put a program in place to replace the logic board if your machine experienced failure in that timeframe, or previously. The Apple program was not publicized,

Yes it was.

Finding information online is nearly impossible unless you use the correct search words.

Well here's a tip: if it's an Apple product start with the Apple site, especially the support page. There's a heading for all these things there.

You must be using a really old OS if you still have the iPhoto app. Yes, the iPhoto app is no longer supported, but you can import all your iPhoto pictures into the new Photos app as described in the previous response.

You must be using a really old OS if you still have the iPhoto app. Yes, the iPhoto app is no longer supported, but you can import all your iPhoto pictures into the new Photos app as described in the previous response.

Not necessarily. If you always kept iPhoto updated, when new versions have been released, you would have seemlessly updated to iPhoto 9.6.1 in March 2015, the compatibiiy update for MacOs X 10.10.3 Yosemite. This version is still running well on the current system version macOS 10.13.3. Since the introduction of the Mac AppStore, it is essential to get updates installed, while they are available. If you stick with an older system version and do not update or upgrade, the compatible applicationversions for the system you want to upgrade to, may no longer be available at the AppStore.

Photos and iPhoto do not interfere with each other, you can use them in parallel and explore Photos while you prepare your iPhoto libraries to the migration to Photos or another application of your choice.

Why didn't Apple let people know when upgrading to Hi Sierra from El Cap that they would lose iPhoto?

Because you don't, if you have the most recent version. And they supply to with a free replacement that is more capable than iPhoto and which works with iPhoto Libraries and a painless way to migrate.

Not trying to be redundant, but I have read so much that I am afraid to do anything. I have Yosemite 10.10.5. iPhoto 9.6.1. I have 784 GB free of 999.35 GB . I think I will try Sierra first ( have heard of problems with High Sierra). I have iPhoto. I just want to move my photos and not loose them. I purchased Adobe Elements (have not put it on yet). I am willing to move to Photos in the short run because I know iPhoto is going to be gone. Then i will put Adobe Elements plus it’s organizational software on. I need a plan of action: please correct me or give me better steps.

#1 back up by time machine

#2. Cleanup duplicates in I Photo

#3. Back up photos to an external HD

#4. Set up my events as Albums (since I read events will not work in Photos and that is how I organized them) , I will put the albums under folders since there will be so many.

#5. Migrate my iPhotos to Photos. Should I use an additional program?

#6. Check photos and Back up again on a HD AND time machine.

#7. Question: should I UPGRADE to Sierra or do what people call a CLEAN install ? And how do you do that?

#8. Back up again.

#9. Put Adobe software on my computer and work with that.

I read that Photos has more to offer in High Sierra. Would I have a problem going straight to High Sierra?

If there is a better way, please, please tell me. Thank you so much in advance.

Thanks so much. Not having a problem at present. I will study about the batch thing. so I do not have to make Albums out of my events? They will be changed to albums ? I noticed that in iPhoto when I click photos, there are a lot of photos that are not in events. I assume they will be transferred as just photos. Is that correct?

I do not like iCloud. Wish I had never gotten on it. Plan to get off once I have done all this.

Can I upgrade straight to High Sierra from Yosamite ?without going to Sierra ?

I noticed when I opened the external hard drive to check it, the photos opened in iPhoto. Will this be a problem if I have to download the photos to PHOTOS in High Sierra in an event that I loose them?

I do not use smart albums .

thanks!

Can I upgrade straight to High Sierra from Yosamite ?without going to Sierra ?

yes, you can. But check, if all your applications that you really need are compatible with High Sierra, or if you can get a compatibility upgrade.

I noticed when I opened the external hard drive to check it, the photos opened in iPhoto. Will this be a problem if I have to download the photos to PHOTOS in High Sierra in an event that I loose them?

iPhoto 9.6.1 will be able to open the iPhoto Libraries in High Sierra, just like now.

When you want to migrate the iPhoto Libraries to Photos you drag the iPhoto Library onto the Photos icon in the Dock and Photos will create a new Photos Library on the same drive.

You'll risk as many problems going to Hight Sierra as you will to Sierra. Just remember that *most* people have no problems with either.

Make a back up first. Do that before upgrading anything.

A "clean install" is quite unnecessary. There's a lot of voodoo about these things, and that's all it is.

You need to decide what your endpoint is:

iPhoto will run on High Sierra.

You can migrate to Photos without interfering with your iPhoto Library.

I would do that first. Try it out. Work with it a few weeks. Then - and only then - if you feel you need something else, explore other options.

The Info Pane in Photos includes a Description area with scroll bar.

More powerful? How can it be, if it has lost the organizational capabilities of iPhoto. I hope you are right, but I would like to know in advance.