Running Adobe CS5 in High Sierra

Question

I have been working round the various little problems I encounter when running Illustrator (part of the Adobe CS5 package), whilst using my Sierra software on my iMac (late 2013).However since (some may say &#x27;foolishly&#x27;) updating my OSX to High Sierra, my programme &#x27;crashes&#x27; etc when using Illustrator are getting beyond a joke. When I go to change a font: it crashes, when I want to change my print mode: it crashes, ifI take more than a few seconds to change the document set-up: it crashes!When I updated my software to High Sierra, my system told me to download a legacy version of Java, to enable my (admittedly) old version of CS5 to work with my spanking new High Sierra, but even though I did this, it still crashes.I really don&#x27;t want to update my Adobe package to the latest version which is a monthly subscription package held in the cloud, as I paid enough for my CD-Rom version of CS5 and can&#x27;t justify the monthly amount to have a few more bells and whistles, which I won&#x27;t use. Can someone please help me and direct me to a site where I can help sort this frustrating problem out?Thank you

Eau Rouge · Answer

Before doing any sort of major upgrade to your OS you should check whether your third party apps are compatiblewith the latest OS. Roaring apps is a site that is often recommended here, from the screenshot below you can see that Illustrator CS5 is fine with High Sierra, but Illustrator CS5.1 has not data as yet. If you can&#x27;t read the screenshot just click and drag onto Preview to open it up.If it was working in Sierra then it should be running in High Sierra, my Adobe products haven&#x27;t been affected by the upgrade.Sierra would have needed the Legacy Java Runtime to open CS5 so you should have had it already installed, just to be sure this is the download you want, Download Java for OS X 2015-001 download and double-click to install, so you might want to try that again.If that doesn&#x27;t work then we would like to see the output of an Etrecheck report, http://etrecheck.com/this is little app that gives a snapshot of what is running on your mac (no personal info is listed) and can help with diagnosing problems. so download, install and share the report here.

Baggycat x · Answer

You aren&#x27;t going to be able to "sort this out". You&#x27;re going to have to either change or upgrade your CS5 or you&#x27;re going to have to revert to Sierra.Bear in mind that if you don&#x27;t have a backup of your system prior to upgrading to HS you are going to have to go back to Mavericks or earlier to be able to install CS5, you can then upgrade the OS back to Sierra. Although CS5 will run under Sierra you aren&#x27;t going to be able to install it under it.I have a lot of customers with this issue and there&#x27;s no solution, ever, to using legacy software with a new OS that doesn&#x27;t support it - unless you aren&#x27;t a regular user and don&#x27;t mind having your software on a different startup disk running an older OS and boot into that only when you need to use it.

dialabrain · Answer

As far as I know, Illustrator from CS5 in particular is problematic on High Sierra. I don&#x27;t believe Adobe supports it but you can check to see if they have an update for it that&#x27;s compatible.

jurkuipers · Answer

not that it&#x27;ll help, - just saying... (link to discussion);Re: Is Adobe Photoshop CS5 compatible with macOS High Sierra?Perhaps "Affinity Designer" could be a nice alternative for you? (didn&#x27;t look into that app yet, but "Affinity Photo" looks like a nice alternative to Adobe&#x27; Photoshop CS5 for me...)I also don&#x27;t like Adobe&#x27;s subscription-model... I hope you&#x27;re problem will be solved.Best of luck!

woodmeister50 · Answer

FWIW, Adobe won&#x27;t support anything that is not CC or acurrently available stand alone app (Elements, Lightroom6, etc.)Any previous CS is quite literally dead in the eyes of Adobe.It may be time to start considering alternatives which are likelybetter than the 7 year old software you are using and likelyeven cheaper.Also, in terms of software developers, it is their responsibility tokeep things working with operating system upgrades.  If they choosenot to, that is their problem.

acprinting · Answer

Thanks for the information and it is a shame that Adobe&#x27;s Developers don&#x27;t seem bothered in keeping their (admittedly old) CS5 Software working with the new upgrades, but I can understand that they are a business and keen to get us punters to shell out money on newer versions. To work round this problem, I am now using Affinity Design instead of Illustrator and it seems to be working fine

Silavario · Answer

Me too !!!Since I upgrade to MacOS High Sierra, It´s imposible to work with Adobe Photoshop, upgrade to last version too.All it´s crash !!!I have been reading some days in Adobe forum, and the problem may be in the new apfs system.Thanks

acprinting · Answer

Thank you for your suggestion, but - unfortunately - it looks like Adobe no longer supports my old CS5 version

acprinting · Answer

Thank you Eau Rouge,I re-downloaded the Legacy Java Runtime, following the link you supplied. But It didn&#x27;t make any difference.So I downloaded and installed the Etrecheck as you suggested and its&#x27; report is listed here. I would be grateful of any further help you may be able to give me, once you&#x27;ve read the following:EtreCheck version: 3.4.6 (460)Report generated 2017-10-12 13:12:34Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.comRuntime: 3:00Performance: GoodClick the [Lookup] links for more information from Apple Support Communities.Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.Click the [Clean up] link to delete unused files.Problem: Apps are crashingDescription:Since updating my (late 2013) iMac to OSX High Sierra, my copy of Adobe Illustrator (part of the CS5) suite keeps crashing. If I try to change the font: IT CRASHES, if I try to change the document settings: IT CRASHES.I have downloaded the Legacy version of Java as instructed, but the above problems still happen. Similar problems happened (sporadically) when I was running El Capitan and Sierra as well, though not as regularly as they are now.Hardware Information: ⓘ    iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2013)     [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty &amp; Service]    iMac - model: iMac14,1    1 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5 (i5-4570R) CPU: 4-core    16 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]        BANK 0/DIMM0            8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok        BANK 1/DIMM0            8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok    Handoff/Airdrop2: supported    Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac    iCloud Quota: 22.06 GB availableVideo Information: ⓘ    Intel Iris Pro - VRAM: 1536 MB        iMac 1920 x 1080Disk Information: ⓘ    APPLE HDD HTS541010A9E662 disk0: (1 TB) (Rotational)    [Show SMART report]        EFI (disk0s1 - MS-DOS FAT32) &lt;not mounted&gt;  [EFI]: 210 MB         Macintosh HD (disk0s2 - Journaled HFS+) /  [Startup]: 999.35 GB (797.81 GB free)        (disk0s3) &lt;not mounted&gt;  [Recovery]: 650 MBUSB Information: ⓘ     USB30Bus         Apple Inc. 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[Clean up]Kernel Extensions: ⓘ        /Library/Application Support/LogMeIn/drivers    [loaded]    com.logmein.driver.LogMeInSoundDriver (4.1.6333) [Lookup]        /Library/Application Support/Roxio    [not loaded]    com.roxio.TDIXController (2.0) [Lookup]        /Library/Extensions    [loaded]    at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch (3.8 - SDK 10.11) [Lookup]        /System/Library/Extensions    [not loaded]    com.Cycling74.driver.Soundflower (1.6.6 - SDK 10.6) [Lookup]    [not loaded]    com.dymo.usbprinterclassdriver.kext (1.1 - SDK 10.9) [Lookup]    [not loaded]    com.roxio.BluRaySupport (1.1.6) [Lookup]    [not loaded]    com.splashtop.driver.SRXDisplayCard (1.6 - SDK 10.7) [Lookup]    [not loaded]    com.splashtop.driver.SRXFrameBufferConnector (1.6 - SDK 10.7) [Lookup]    [not loaded]    com.tomtom.driver.UsbEthernetGadget (1.0.0d1) [Lookup]Startup Items: ⓘ    FanControlDaemon: Path: /Library/StartupItems/FanControlDaemon    Startup items no longer function in OS X Yosemite or laterSystem Launch Agents: ⓘ    [not loaded]    7 Apple tasks    [loaded]    172 Apple tasks    [running]    110 Apple tasksSystem Launch Daemons: ⓘ    [not loaded]    36 Apple tasks    [loaded]    184 Apple tasks    [running]    109 Apple tasksLaunch Agents: ⓘ    [running]    at.obdev.LittleSnitchUIAgent.plist (Objective Development Software GmbH - installed 2017-09-22) [Lookup]    [running]    com.Affinegy.InstaLANa.plist (? e5c3a4f4 82b39662 - installed 2010-03-08) [Lookup]    [not loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2015-07-31) [Lookup]    [failed]    com.adobe.ARMDCHelper.cc24aef4a1b90ed56a725c38014c95072f92651fb65e1bf9c8e43c37a2 3d420d.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-01-12) [Lookup]    [running]    com.adobe.AdobeCreativeCloud.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-04-19) [Lookup]    [loaded]    com.adobe.CS5ServiceManager.plist (? 40cdc1ff dd391a6f - installed 2015-07-31) [Lookup]    [loaded]    com.google.keystone.agent.plist (Google, Inc. - installed 2017-07-10) [Lookup]    [failed]    com.logmein.LMILaunchAgentFixer.plist (? 2c91a132 0 - installed 2015-03-27) [Lookup] - /Library/Application Support/LogMeIn/bin/LMILaunchAgentFixer.app/Contents/MacOS/LMILaunchAgentFixer: Executable not found!    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[not loaded]    com.maintain.HideSpotlightMenuBarIcon.plist (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-09-21)    [failed]    com.maintain.NetworkOptimization.plist (Shell Script 5d79dff3 - installed 2017-09-21)    [loaded]    com.microsoft.autoupdate.helper.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2017-04-12) [Lookup]    [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist (Shell Script e3fefdd2 - installed 2016-06-22) [Lookup]    [loaded]    com.rogueamoeba.instanton-agent.plist (Rogue Amoeba Software, LLC - installed 2017-08-14) [Lookup]    [loaded]    com.sharpcast.xfsmond.plist (? 9d10b5b0 0 - installed 2013-11-27) [Lookup]    [running]    com.splashtop.streamer-daemon.plist (? ef6ff0c6 312c0d7f - installed 2017-04-19) [Lookup]    [loaded]    com.splashtop.streamer-srioframebuffer.plist (? 395c7566 33648858 - installed 2017-04-19) [Lookup]    [running]    com.trusteer.rooks.rooksd.plist (Trusteer LTD - installed 2017-06-22) [Lookup]User Launch Agents: ⓘ    [loaded]    com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist (? e18d8339 63c5d68b - installed 2017-04-19) [Lookup]    [running]    com.amazon.music.plist (? 7c73c27a 689fd09a - installed 2017-08-16) [Lookup]    [loaded]    com.dropbox.DropboxMacUpdate.agent.plist (Dropbox, Inc. - installed 2017-08-11) [Lookup]    [loaded]    com.skype.skype.shareagent.plist (Skype Communications S.a.r.l - installed 2017-09-26) [Lookup]    [running]    com.spotify.webhelper.plist (Spotify - installed 2017-10-11) [Lookup]User Login Items: ⓘ    Dropbox    Application         (/Applications/Dropbox.app)    Audio Hijack 3 Schedule Helper    Application         (/Library/Application Support/Audio Hijack/Audio Hijack 3 Schedule Helper.app)    iTunesHelper    Application (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-09-20)        (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)    com.adobe.SwitchBoard.monitor.plist    MachInit - Hidden         (/etc/mach_init_per_user.d/com.adobe.SwitchBoard.monitor.plist)    Mach Init items are deprecatedInternet Plug-ins: ⓘ    LogMeInSafari64: 1.0.730 (installed 2015-07-24) [Lookup]    AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin1017287: AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin 1.0.17 (installed 2015-07-24) [Lookup]    DYMO NPAPI Addin: 1.0 (installed 2015-07-25) [Lookup]    OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin: 12.3.6 (installed 2015-07-24) [Lookup]    Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: 2.4.4.2 (installed 2015-07-24) [Lookup]    DYMO Safari Addin: Unknown (installed 2015-07-25) [Lookup]    AdobeAAMDetect: 3.0.0.0 (installed 2015-07-30) [Lookup]    AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: 17.012.20098 (installed 2017-08-29) [Lookup]    FlashPlayer-10.6: 24.0.0.186 (installed 2017-04-19) [Lookup]    FolxNetscapePlugIn: 2.0 (installed 2015-07-24) [Lookup]    QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (installed 2017-09-21)    Flash Player: 24.0.0.186 (installed 2017-04-19) Outdated! Update    iPhotoPhotocast: 7.0 (installed 2015-07-24)    LogMeIn: 1.0.730 (installed 2015-07-24) [Lookup]    AdobePDFViewer: 17.012.20098 (installed 2017-08-29) [Lookup]    LogMeInSafari32: 1.0.730 (installed 2015-07-24) [Lookup]    Silverlight: 5.1.40416.0 (installed 2017-04-19) [Lookup]    RL Secure Plug-In Layer: Unknown (installed 2015-09-16) [Lookup]    JavaAppletPlugin: Java 8 Update 101 build 13 (installed 2017-04-19) Check versionUser internet Plug-ins: ⓘ    Unity Web Player: UnityPlayer version 2.6.1f3 (installed 2015-08-03) [Lookup]    FolxNetscapePlugIn: 2.0 (installed 2015-10-09) [Lookup]    Dashlane: Dashlane 1.0.0 (installed 2014-11-27) [Lookup]3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ    Fan Control (installed 2015-07-24) [Lookup]    Flash Player (installed 2016-12-10) [Lookup]    Flip4Mac WMV (installed 2015-07-24) [Lookup]    FUSE for OS X (OSXFUSE) (installed 2015-07-24) [Lookup]    Java (installed 2017-04-19) [Lookup]    MusicManager (installed 2015-11-17) [Lookup]    Trusteer Endpoint Protection (installed 2017-07-14) [Lookup]Time Machine: ⓘ    Skip System Files: NO    Mobile backups: OFF    Auto backup: NO - Auto backup turned off    Volumes being backed up:        Macintosh HD: Disk size: 999.35 GB Disk used: 201.54 GB    Destinations:        Time Machine [Local]         Total size: 1.00 TB         Total number of backups: 93         Oldest backup: 20/08/2015, 20:54         Last backup: 01/03/2017, 10:17         Size of backup disk: Adequate            Backup size 1.00 TB &gt; (Disk used 201.54 GB X 3)Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ         8%   kernel_task         3%   WindowServer         0%   fontd         0%   Dropbox         0%   useractivitydTop Processes by Memory: ⓘ    936 MB    kernel_task    328 MB    com.apple.WebKit.WebContent    160 MB    Dropbox    145 MB    mds_stores    132 MB    MailTop Processes by Network Use: ⓘ    Input     Output    Process name    6 MB      101 KB    Mail    392 KB    37 KB     mDNSResponder    89 KB     187 KB    Dropbox    21 KB     44 KB     apsd    7 KB      2 KB      clouddTop Processes by Energy Use: ⓘ      5.30 WindowServer      0.30 Little Snitch Agent      0.28 Adobe CEF Helper      0.24 DropboxVirtual Memory Information: ⓘ    11.85 GB  Available RAM    8.55 GB   Free RAM    4.15 GB   Used RAM    3.30 GB   Cached files    0 B       Swap UsedSoftware installs (last 30 days): ⓘ    Kindle: 1.20.3 (installed 2017-09-20)    The Unarchiver: 3.11.3 (installed 2017-09-20)    Install information may not be complete.Diagnostics Events (last 3 days for minor events): ⓘ    2017-10-12 12:15:25    Last shutdown cause: 0 - Power loss    2017-10-12 10:06:37    est4520CII-SuppliesChecker Crash [Open]        Cause:        dyld: launch, running initializers        /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib    2017-10-11 09:07:43    Adobe Illustrator.app High CPU use [Open] [Details]    2017-10-10 12:43:09    Adobe Photoshop CS5.app High CPU use [Open] [Details]    2017-10-10 10:12:20    com.apple.WebKit.WebContent High CPU use [Open] [Details]Thank you once again