So sad, DVD STUDIO PRO won't launch in High Sierra
It's sad. I've been using DVD STUDIO PRO for years go create professional DVDs. Now it won't work in High Sierra.
And Final Cut Pro X's DVD creation is lame.
It's sad. I've been using DVD STUDIO PRO for years go create professional DVDs. Now it won't work in High Sierra.
And Final Cut Pro X's DVD creation is lame.
I too still use DVD Studio Pro and always keep a few cloned hard drives going back a few OSs just in case something breaks with a new OS. It's always a best practice to have at least one cloned drive of your system before upgrading.
I too still use DVD Studio Pro and always keep a few cloned hard drives going back a few OSs just in case something breaks with a new OS. It's always a best practice to have at least one cloned drive of your system before upgrading.
Due to the firmware update I can't get my back-up OS drive to boot the computer, on my MacPro 5,1. I can select the startup disk but the computer will not boot in the previous OS. I can't even re-install Sierra due to the "this OS can't be installed on this system message. So now my (ex) work machine is stuck in High Sierra forever, not happy. It bricked DVDSP, FCP7 and Livetype. I only use DVDSP for 6 jobs per year in Nov/Dec but there is now no-way to open those previous jobs. I have 1 legacy job I edit in FCP7, now that is stuffed also. How hard would it be for the OS installer to have a message saying "by the way, this, this and this, will not work once you install me"? Mark
It occurs to me that in most other aspects of business, any company that produced something which damaged existing property (without a clear warning) would be opened right up for litigation and commercial ruin . . . so how does Apple get away with it?
It is effectively preventing the use of software that cost as much as a new Mac!
I agree. The FCP suite cost me $1500 Australian dollars, and I bought 3 suites! Ok, I know they are out of date and I have recently moved my business to Prem Pro on PC, but I still need to access software I bought for older projects. I do not know how they get away with it. Luckily I downloaded Encore from Adobe, and I can keep working. I spent 2 days last weekend and there is no way to revert to Sierra OS using a back up boot drive. It just is not good enough.
MacPro 5,1s are stuck at Sierra for any FCP, Livetype, DVDSP type of work, plus a bunch of other Apps also will not work, like Toast. After a lot of messing around I managed to get Disk Drill to create a USB El Capitan boot drive. I then managed to install El Capitan on a spare HDD. I thought I was quite clever, only to find out that the High Sierra SSD WILL NOT MOUNT under Sierra. Disk Utility, Disk Drill and Tuxera can see the High Sierra SSD, but will not mount it! The computer can now dual boot, but when it does boot, the opposing OS drive is invisible... To sum up: I can boot in Sierra but not see the High Sierra drive or I can boot in High Sierra but not see the Sierra drive. What a cluster!! I can't even manage to manually migrate mail back to Sierra. I have done this many times over the years with no trouble, it's been the main Mac benefit over the decades. But APPLE has clearly said,"you're the weakest link" to 5,1s. If you use a 5,1 for business DO NOT "UPGRADE" to High Sierra. My business has recently moved to PC, so I'll get by. But just imagine if I had bought the upcoming iMac Pro, (which I was contemplating) what a waste of money that would have been under High Sierra. I love Apple and have 10s of thousands of $$ of their gear but this bites the big one!! As a side note: If you use Prem Pro on a Mac, it works even better on a PC, and Windows 10 is actually very stable (although ugly). And not a single OS crash in 6 weeks, and not a single hard reboot. I could not be happier with the PC and Adobe CC. Mark
MacPro 5,1s are stuck at Sierra for any FCP, Livetype, DVDSP type of work, plus a bunch of other Apps also will not work, like Toast. After a lot of messing around I managed to get Disk Drill to create a USB El Capitan boot drive. I then managed to install El Capitan on a spare HDD. I thought I was quite clever, only to find out that the High Sierra SSD WILL NOT MOUNT under El Capitan. Disk Utility, Disk Drill and Tuxera can see the High Sierra SSD, but will not mount it! The computer can now dual boot, but when it does boot, the opposing OS drive is invisible... To sum up: I can boot in El Capitan but not see the High Sierra drive or I can boot in High Sierra but not see the El Capitan drive. What a cluster!! I can't even manage to manually migrate mail back to El Capitan. I have done this many times over the years with no trouble, it's been the main Mac benefit over the decades. But APPLE has clearly said,"you're the weakest link" to 5,1s. If you use a 5,1 for business DO NOT "UPGRADE" to High Sierra. My business has recently moved to PC, so I'll get by. But just imagine if I had bought the upcoming iMac Pro, (which I was contemplating) what a waste of money that would have been under High Sierra. I love Apple and have 10s of thousands of $$ of their gear but this bites the big one!! As a side note: If you use Prem Pro on a Mac, it works even better on a PC, and Windows 10 is actually very stable (although ugly). And not a single OS crash in 6 weeks, and not a single hard reboot. I could not be happier with the PC and Adobe CC. Mark
The firmware update that accompanies the HS installer does not prevent booting up from drives with a previous OS. The firmware update is done separately from, and prior to, Installing High Sierra. I just downloaded HS (without installing) but did install the firmware update. I have switched back and forth between 3 drives, each with a previous OS, without any problems.
After about a week of messing around, whilst running High Sierra, I managed to create a USB boot drive for Sierra using Disk Drill. I then managed a clean install onto a spare HDD. Now my MacPro 5,1 will dual boot. The only problem is Sierra will not allow Migration Assistant to access the High Sierra SSD data. Migration Assistant can see the drive is there but a little yellow "roadblock" triangle appears next to the High Sierra SSD icon. What this means is that if I need to use FCP7, DVDSP or Livetype (thankfully that is not often now days) I need to boot in Sierra but if I want access to my previous data, I have to boot in High Sierra. It's mainly Mail that is my main concern, everything else can be reinstalled but Mail will not transfer, even if I transfer Mail manually, High Sierra Mail appears empty. For me it's not the end of the world but I can see it would be a major headache for anyone that works in Legacy software everyday.
markfromgero wrote:
After about a week of messing around, whilst running High Sierra, I managed to create a USB boot drive for Sierra using Disk Drill. I then managed a clean install onto a spare HDD. Now my MacPro 5,1 will dual boot. The only problem is Sierra will not allow Migration Assistant to access the High Sierra SSD data. Migration Assistant can see the drive is there but a little yellow "roadblock" triangle appears next to the High Sierra SSD icon. What this means is that if I need to use FCP7, DVDSP or Livetype (thankfully that is not often now days) I need to boot in Sierra but if I want access to my previous data, I have to boot in High Sierra. It's mainly Mail that is my main concern, everything else can be reinstalled but Mail will not transfer, even if I transfer Mail manually, High Sierra Mail appears empty. For me it's not the end of the world but I can see it would be a major headache for anyone that works in Legacy software everyday.
The reason Migration Assistant in Sierra cannot access the High Sierra drive is almost certainly because it is formatted as APFS. You can get around this. Use SuperDuper! to make a clone of your drive to an external HFS+ formatted drive, and I'm pretty confident you can use Migration Assistant from there.
Mail also may be recovered, probably.
For IMAP, it should be just a matter of creating the appropriate accounts. All mail is on the server, anyway.
That leaves the problem of what to do with the "On My Mac" mailboxes.
For that, I would try selecting the appropriate mailboxes and doing Mailbox->Export Selected Mailboxes, then on the other system just do File->Import Mailboxes.
Kicking myself, I didn't investigate this before upgrading to High Sierra, now there are no good DVD authoring tools out there... bit peeved off really... now considering dusting the cobwebs off a really old macbook pro hoping the burner still works, cos its the only thing left that will still use DVDSP.
anyone know where to get a bootable copy of yosemite or mavericks? least can use it still with that... 😟
iDVD's dead too. Many of the 32-bit apps will not work. In the next OS none will work.
You need to keep an older machine as well. Buy a new one, and it will only boot into HS, and no earlier OS.
True. Right now my newest machine is a 2013 rMBP and also still getting a lot of use out of a my Mac Pro 5,1. when I do get new machine, I will still keep the others as long as they are useful.
Thanks for the "heads-up", Mark. I've been resisting installing HS on a drive until FCP X gets optimized for it, and now glad I did. Guess the 5,1 will stay topped out at Sierra.
So sad, DVD STUDIO PRO won't launch in High Sierra