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Does MacMini use a LAME codec to create MP3s?

I'd like to record and master audio books for Amazon's ACX. ACX wants the files to be encoded with the LAME MP3 encoder. Will my MacMini use it to encode audio when I select Save As > File Format > MP3?


Many thanks!


Dick

Mac mini, macOS Sierra (10.12.6), iMovie 10.1.6

Posted on Oct 13, 2017 10:39 AM

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Posted on Oct 16, 2017 10:14 AM

As others have already replied no iTunes does not itself have a built-in LAME encoder.


I do seem to recall in the past managing to install a codec which as I dimly recall allowed LAME to show up in iTunes, I think it was a QuickTime codec. This approach is I believe long broken, Apple no longer really support additional QuickTime codecs.


However I did find this https://code.google.com/archive/p/blacktree-itunes-lame/wikis/iTunesLAME.wiki I have no idea if it is still compatible with the current version of iTunes and OS X.


Actually thinking more about this perhaps it was this second approach I used to use. I now keep all my music in Apple Lossless.


It looks like it takes a slightly different approach and via an AppleScript gets iTunes to use an external LAME encoder.


It should be noted that an MP3 file produced using LAME and an MP3 file produced using iTunes are both MP3 files that can be played using any MP3 player - otherwise they would not be MP3 files! The only difference is that allegedly MP3 files produced using LAME are superior audio quality to MP3 files produced using other MP3 encoders including the one built-in to iTunes.


Otherwise the approach suggested by others of using a different program to take the recording from iTunes and converting it externally to iTunes is the best approach. XLD does indeed support converting to LAME - it is slightly counter-intuitive that it does since XLD is predominantly for handling lossless formats rather than lossey formats such as MP3.


You don't detail how your recording the audio book. Ideally you want to record in a lossless format or record directly to LAME. You want to avoid any extra conversions, for example recording to MP3 or AAC and then converting to LAME would actually impair the quality. However recording to a lossless format WAV, AIFF, Apple Lossless, FLAC and then converting to LAME would be fine as you are not converting from an already degraded format.


It looks like it might be possible to use Audacity on a Mac to record directly to LAME. However the LAME module is an extra optional download.

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Oct 16, 2017 10:14 AM in response to DHuitema

As others have already replied no iTunes does not itself have a built-in LAME encoder.


I do seem to recall in the past managing to install a codec which as I dimly recall allowed LAME to show up in iTunes, I think it was a QuickTime codec. This approach is I believe long broken, Apple no longer really support additional QuickTime codecs.


However I did find this https://code.google.com/archive/p/blacktree-itunes-lame/wikis/iTunesLAME.wiki I have no idea if it is still compatible with the current version of iTunes and OS X.


Actually thinking more about this perhaps it was this second approach I used to use. I now keep all my music in Apple Lossless.


It looks like it takes a slightly different approach and via an AppleScript gets iTunes to use an external LAME encoder.


It should be noted that an MP3 file produced using LAME and an MP3 file produced using iTunes are both MP3 files that can be played using any MP3 player - otherwise they would not be MP3 files! The only difference is that allegedly MP3 files produced using LAME are superior audio quality to MP3 files produced using other MP3 encoders including the one built-in to iTunes.


Otherwise the approach suggested by others of using a different program to take the recording from iTunes and converting it externally to iTunes is the best approach. XLD does indeed support converting to LAME - it is slightly counter-intuitive that it does since XLD is predominantly for handling lossless formats rather than lossey formats such as MP3.


You don't detail how your recording the audio book. Ideally you want to record in a lossless format or record directly to LAME. You want to avoid any extra conversions, for example recording to MP3 or AAC and then converting to LAME would actually impair the quality. However recording to a lossless format WAV, AIFF, Apple Lossless, FLAC and then converting to LAME would be fine as you are not converting from an already degraded format.


It looks like it might be possible to use Audacity on a Mac to record directly to LAME. However the LAME module is an extra optional download.

Oct 14, 2017 5:23 AM in response to DHuitema

My first question would be:

What is your recording device?? If you use some sort of stand-along type digital recorder, you can pre-set at MP3 format and not to worry about the converting.


If your raw digital sound to be AIFF, WAV then you will need some "software" to convert the file.


For simple way, you can use iTune to do so (given your file is not copy-right from others).


I believe MP3 is pretty common format these days and iTune can definitely do the work. But in case you want 3rd party stuffs (such as cut/paste/manipulation etc, Audacity can be one -- an open-source software runs on many platform (PC, Mac and Linux) -- for my own regret, RIP on PEAK -- it was used to be my go-to music editing software. I have little experience on Logic Pro though.


Sam

Oct 14, 2017 5:30 AM in response to samtenor

Sam!


So, you think iTunes uses LAME for its codec. That's a possibility! Thanks!


The files will be in AIFF or WAV format in my Documents folder. I'd need to move them into the iTunes Music (Library) folder in order to use the iTunes Convert command, but it certainly would work..... but that doesn't confirm that the codec is LAME. Also, it would be simpler if I could just Save the files as MP3s from my editing app, Sound Studio.


I know LAME is the most popular codec for MP3, but I need to be certain that's what Save will use. It would be great to know whether my mono files will be created as a mono MP3 files, at a Constant bit rate (CBR) with their control bits set to Original.


Can anyone tell me?


Dick

Nov 26, 2017 4:41 AM in response to John Lockwood

Sam!


So, you think iTunes uses LAME for its codec. That's a possibility! Thanks!


The files will be in AIFF or WAV format in my Documents folder. I'd need to move them into the iTunes Music (Library) folder in order to use the iTunes Convert command, but it certainly would work..... but that doesn't confirm that the codec is LAME. Also, it would be simpler if I could just Save the files as MP3s from my editing app, Sound Studio.


I know LAME is the most popular codec for MP3, but I need to be certain that's what Save will use. It would be great to know whether my mono files will be created as a mono MP3 files, at a Constant bit rate (CBR) with their control bits set to Original.


Can anyone tell me?


Dick

Does MacMini use a LAME codec to create MP3s?

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