in Logic Pro on High Sierra, every plugins using /library/audio/presets for presets has sorting problem.
they aren't arranged by name and messed up randomly.
same on other daw tools, too.
same with vst and aax plugins.
so it seems to be an os level issue.
is there any solution for this?
Logic Pro X, macOS High Sierra (10.13)
The plug-in frame has a lot of functionality. One is to access plug-in settings.
Some 3rd party developers use the designated Audio > Preset folder to store their presets.
Here's an example:
Others use their own system on the plug-in UI.
This is the one that gets returned by hash instead of by dictionary order, unless you change the way the plug-in access the file system.
I believe it's the developer of the plug-ins/frameworks that are responsible for retrieving this information correctly.
Try contacting the developers and see what they have to say about it.
In Logic/ Preferences/ Plug-In Manager, the Left-most area allows for rebuilding folders and assigning which plugins are in those folders when clicking on the "AudioFX" area of any channel strip.
If you click on one of those folder in that Left-most area, at the top of the Plug-In Manager window, there are tabs to have them line up alphabetically by Name, Manufacturer, etc.
The issue is related to AFPS.
It returns the list ordered by hash instead of alphabetical.
Is this only happening via the preset system that the 3rd plug-in itself is providing or is this also happening in Logic's own plug-in preset => The one on the Logic plug-in frame at the top of the window?
Yes, you have to contact Apple to put some pressure on this issue.
It is a known issue (oversight) that, I'm sure, they must be aware of.
This happens also in other areas in Logic, for example, Custom Icons.
The problem is that in previous file systems, the system itself returned any file list in sorted order, so the app, didn't have to the sorting when it receives the list. The new APFS file system in HighSierra doesn't do that anymore (as Cuauhemoc pointed out). That means the Logic team has to update their code to now do the sorting on the receiving side inside Logic.
This is a perfect example why you always have to wait a month or two before upgrading an app or system if you have mission critical issues like that (THere are also other even more annoying issues with HighSierra and Symlinks).
Downgrading an OS is no fun, especially if you don't have a cloned backup.
Hope that helps
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There isn't anything you can do about it.
Contact Apple here:
And contact the developers too.
When you are in a Finder window viewing the contents choose View > Show View Options from the Menu bar.
Set Arrange by to None and Sort by to Name.
it's a presets issue.
when I open 'presets' in plugin, presets are not sorted by name.
I'm not seeing this issue here on my system.
Is it a particular plug-in or all 3rd party plug-ins?
I’m Having the exact same problem whenever I go to any of my third-party plug-ins and check the precepts they are all muddled up and not in alphabetical order, does anyone have a solution for this?
I don’t know what you mean by the logic window?
But so far I’ve only noticed it with third party plugins :(
Do you suggest anything I can do to fix this issue or do I need to wait for apple to realease an update?
Great thanks for your help. I try contact them. :)
plugin's preset arrangements
