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iPhone 8 Plus horrible lens flare and reflections

Hi everyone,

Last night I went out to take some photos with my new iPhone 8 Plus and I realised that there were many little dots everywhere when I shot to light sources.



Sometimes it’s like a big reflection inside the lens.

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Please help me to understand if its an hardware problem or a lens flare effect.

I think it's unacceptable this effect for a smartphone have this price.

iPhone 8 Plus, iOS 11.0.3

Posted on Oct 15, 2017 1:15 PM

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Posted on Feb 25, 2018 7:43 PM

A few days after I got my brand new iphone 8, I noticed this issue in a night time video I took in the country, where sources of light were scarce. So then I started doing tests everywhere, and sadly, realized it happens ALL THE TIME. Very ticked off. Not acceptable Apple! I wish I had read these posts before I upgraded. I would have been better off with my old iphone6. If I hadn't upgraded the day before leaving the country for a month (I even did so for sake of having a better camera for my travels), I would have taken the phone back and returned it.

I'm including examples where it's very clear that it's not a lens flare. One can see clearly that the "dirt" takes on the shape of the source of light. It's a reflection, not a flare.


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Jan 13, 2018 9:59 AM in response to A2ua

A2ua wrote:


Today I recognized the same problem on my iPhone 8 and am very upset that it’s “normal”...

Do all 8 and 8 plus have this effect?

ALL Lenses, including $1,000 lenses on high end DSLR cameras exhibit Lens Flare. ALL. People want higher resolution cameras, so now we have 12 megapixel cameras on our phones. They show MORE detail, including artifacts we don't want. It's simply the nature of photography. Instead of being "very upset" learn about photography. Invest in photo editing software so you can remove unwanted artifacts from your photos. But don't blame Apple for not being to change optic dynamics. My $2,000 Nikon DSLR, with a $1,000 lens attached shows lens flare.

Feb 25, 2018 8:59 PM in response to lobsterghost1

Yes. I know this is not "talking" to Apple...it's more like venting to an accepting audience. I already went to the genius bar at the Apple Store in Taipei. The guy basically tried to school me in photography and said that's how shooting photos is via a smartphone. I will wait until I get back to the US, as I will have less language limitations. I'm hoping I got a lemon. I can't imagine all iphone 8's producing images like this!

Feb 26, 2018 8:21 AM in response to tingdubz

Hey I am sorry they just passed off your detailed post like the Genius Bar is going to make or break this issue. I spoke with a Senior Advisor and it produces the green orbs as some of the other posters have shown. The color of the streaks you have are the exact same when eyeballing it and I’m about 99% sure if the photos were pulled into Lightroom/Photoshop, Luminar, etc. and selected the color from the streak and the green blob from the original poster they would be the same.


There is some refraction of light. The blobs make sense and so do the streaks for what defines lens flare. My father’s iPhone 6S Plus does this and my friend’s X does this. My father and I shoot Canon 5D IV & 6D with high end Tamron SP or Canon L Lenses. My buddy Alex shoots a Sony a7Riii and Zeiss or G- Master Sony lenses. The poi t of mentioning that is that we know Photography and gear. The sensor capturing the photons of light to make your photo into an image is only as strong or weak as the glass used I front of it and on the lenses.


The 6S Plus, the 8 you have, and the 8 Plus have one commonality. There is gorilla glass or sapphire in front of the lens that bulges out from the phone. Thus, it’s like shooting through a window. Also, Apple Support could not confirm any nano coating or ant-reflective coating used on the X or the other phones we are discussing.


Kit lenses that come with lower end starter cameras like the Canon Rebel T3/T6, Nikon D3300, Sony a6000, etc. have these issues and Chromatoc Aberatuon with a Purple, Green, or Grey fringing in areas with high contrast or dynamic range differences.


If you are a photographer and get all of this cool. I’m not trying to be a know it all or talk above or down to anyone. It’s a real issue and it can be replicated multiple times. The issue is not excusable because it is a phone or Apple’s marketing strategy to use Computational Photography to produce studio lighting and a DSLR/Interchangable Lens Mirrorless Camera falls on its face. This is sometimes the only camera people have on them from amateur hobbyist to pro.


I would strongly suggest going to Apple.com/feedback or submitting feedback via the Feedbacks App if you are running a Beta iOS.


The only thing that has me prepplexed is your photos show streaks and not blobs. They both have incoming light sources that are relatively small (not the sun or a speed light/strobe), but they are bright in comparison to the scene, which would be absent of light if they were not there. I would almost think this is more of an issue of reflection or refraction of the light hitting the aperture blades or another part of the lens before being captured by the sensor. - All of which should have been addressed before the phones released.


I mean if Phil was taking about deep trench isolation when they bumped up the megapixels for pixel density issues and light bleed on a small sensor then this should be a non issue many phone generations later.

Apr 5, 2018 8:49 AM in response to tingdubz

Last night I used my camera for the first time at a concert. Everyone around me were getting great photos and video and all I was getting were blobs of white light. I feel I can not use my camera for any of the reasons that I need it. Not in sunlight, not with anything that gives a reflection including my family when they wear glasses and certainly not when I get to see The Eagles live. I hope they get this corrected. My memories are being erased because I can no longer use my phone to capture them.

iPhone 8 Plus horrible lens flare and reflections

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