Does an iPhone 4 Verizon work when abroad?

I detest phones with no SIM card. They should be recalled and carriers forced to follow the rest of the world.

I only use GSM models with a SIM card and all of my phones are unlocked too so I can use them anywhere.

Outside of the US and Canada everyone uses GSM phones.

iOSAndroidRebel wrote:

Ok, so if it only works with Verizon, is roaming possible? I meant these people that bought the iPhone on Verizon bought it way too early.

Roaming is only possible on other CDMA networks with whom Verizon has a roaming agreement. You would need to contact Verizon to find out what, if any such agreements they still have.

Get a GSM model, they work all over the world. CDMA are carrier locked which I detest in the extreme.

I own several unlocked iPhones and when I am away I can swap SIM cards instantly and have a local number.

Roaming costs can cost 5x more than a local pay as you go SIM

Vegan Advocate wrote:

Get a GSM model, they work all over the world. CDMA are carrier locked which I detest in the extreme.

I own several unlocked iPhones and when I am away I can swap SIM cards instantly and have a local number.

Roaming costs can cost 5x more than a local pay as you go SIM

No, CDMA phones are not "carrier locked" in the way that you understand. It's a meaningless term for a CDMA phones. The way CDMA phones are connected to a network is through the electronic serial number (ESN). It's loaded into a Device Management Database. In theory, any CDMA carrier can load any CDMA ESN into their database. In practice, they rarely did.

It made perfect sense, six years ago, to buy a CDMA iPhone 4 if your carrier was Verizon or Sprint. Buying a GSM iPhone 4 would have meant changing to AT&T, which wasn't always desirable.

The iPhone 4 is irrelevant at this late date. There's no reason to buy it at all, really.

iOSAndroidRebel wrote:

The Verizon SIM CARD is built in to the iPhone 4.

You have no idea what you're talking about. There is no "Verizon SIM card" in an iPhone 4. CDMA networks don't use SIM cards at all.

iOSAndroidRebel wrote:

But what about the people still using it, like my late niece Anna, because she still uses an iPhone 3G in 2016. She was 10 at the time.

So your "late niece" still uses an iPhone, eh... I suppose it's time to break out the zombie apocalypse survival gear, then...

KiltedTim wrote:

iOSAndroidRebel wrote:

But what about the people still using it, like my late niece Anna, because she still uses an iPhone 3G in 2016. She was 10 at the time.

So your "late niece" still uses an iPhone, eh... I suppose it's time to break out the zombie apocalypse survival gear, then...

It's Apple's newest market....

To be fair to our little friend, there's definitely a tense problem in that first sentence.

No, the Verizon iPhone 4 does NOT have a built in SIM. It's a CDMA only phone. It can only, ever, be used on Verizon.

Vegan Advocate wrote:

Outside of the US and Canada everyone uses GSM phones.

In the U.S., most phones are LTE.

And, yes, CDMA is used in other parts of the world.

No. It's just another lie. You just make this up as you go along. It's obvious you're only purpose here is to be a troll.