retrieving emails after deleted account

hi
i just hooked up a new internet provider and after adding a new account for my email in the mail app, i deleted the old inactive account in the mail prefs. little did i realise this was going to delete all my emails from the previous account, or i would not have done it. i really didnt think that would happen, seriously. pretty stupid if you ask me, obviously you would want to keep your saved emails even if you do change accounts. anyway, are these emails stored anywhere on my mac and can i retrieve them at all? thanks for any help!

P.Mac G4 733mhz, 40 GB + 200GB ext, Mac OS X (10.4)

Posted on Jan 12, 2007 2:13 AM

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Jan 12, 2007 2:37 AM in response to Kieran Stevens

Before deleting an account in Tiger Mail, the following warning message is provided:

Are you sure you want to remove the (account type here) account “XXXXXXXXXX”?
This will permanently delete the account setup information, mailboxes, and messages from your computer. Copies of messages on the mail server, if they exist, are not affected.


This is usually ignored or not completely understood but is based on the Mail.app filing structure so now the long winded answer for the reason.

Many other email clients utilize a single large database file which is not dependent on individual account and associated mailbox filing. When creating an account in Mail, an account named folder (named by the user name and incoming mail server for the account) is created in the Mail folder at Home > Library > Mail using the Finder. For POP type accounts, the following mailbox (mbox) folders are created within the account named folder when the function is used by the account: INBOX.mbox, Drafts.mbox, Sent Messages.mbox, Deleted Messages.mbox and Junk.mbox (when Junk mail is set to automatic). The mbox folders within the account named folder represent the account named mailboxes under In, Drafts, Sent, Trash and Junk (when Junk mail is set to automatic) in the Mail.app mailboxes drawer.

When deleting an account in Mail, the account named folder at Home > Library > Mail is deleted at that time and as the warning message indicates, the associated account mailboxes within the account named folder are also deleted. You must select OK after the warning message appears.

It would be preferable for the account named folder to be moved to the hard drive Trash can which requires an additional step to delete but this is not what occurs.

To have any hope of recovering your data, you need to immediately stop using your system and then purchase a copy of a recovery tool such as Tech Tool Pro (Micromat) or Data Rescue (Prosoft Engineering), both of which have data recovery tools. I've not used Data Rescue, but I've seen reports that it recovers files that the others cannot, so it might be your best hope. The chances generally aren't really good even so, but short of sending your drive to a data recovery service (expensive), such utilities are your only hope.

Note that the more you use your system before you attempt recovery, the more likely it is that the system will overwrite the sections of the drive where the data you want to recover is stored, rendering it unrecoverable by any means. You should therefore stop using the system completely until you get and try to use one of the file recovery tools.

This also emphasizes the importance of maintaining a regular backup of the Mail folder and other important data.

Jan 12, 2007 3:06 AM in response to Allan Sampson

yeah youre right i didnt really pay much attention to the warning message before i said OK, but i wouldve thought you would just keep them, i mean why not let me keep them? theyre my emails dammit!!

oh well, theyre just emails no big deal.

but this helps

"Copies of messages on the mail server, if they exist, are not affected."

so ill just get what i need from the mail server...

Jan 12, 2007 3:19 AM in response to Kieran Stevens

but i wouldve thought you would just keep them,
i mean why not let me keep them?


I explained the reason why as best as I know how.

Sorry but it is not anyone else's fault if you didn't pay much attention to the warning message provided and don't maintain a backup. Chalk it up as a painful lesson learned - pay close attention when a warning message is provided and if the warning message is not completely understood, decline until you do understand.

Maintaining a regular backup is important for other reasons besides data being deleted by accident. It isn't a matter of if but when your hard drive has a partial or complete failure since none last forever.

Leopard's Time Machine will be helpful in this regard but will not take the place of maintaining a regular backup saved to an external drive or media since this doesn't eliminate the potential for hard drive failure.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/timemachine.html

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