Safari Overriding Site Data?

I am brand new to the Mac experience (MacBook Pro) after many decades as a Windows user. There is a web site where one can access a basic stock price chart and then customize it. The objective is to save the customized additions, even after one leaves the site, so the they are still there on your return to the site. In Windows, using Google Chrome, for example, this is done in a tab. Chrome instructions are set to whereby one can re-access that site (via the tab) "where one left off." Thus, one's customized changes are still there.


In Safari, my site is saved in Favorites, where it can be accessed repeatedly throughout the day. Evidently, other Favorite sites accessed must override the site info, because when I return to the chart site, all of my customized changes are gone, and I am back with the basic building block.


I am sure that my vocabulary above is no doubt not clear, but I am looking for a way around this issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Gordon

Houston, TX

MacBook Pro with Retina display, iOS 10.3.3, Not sure of IOS; 10.12.6?

Posted on Oct 17, 2017 5:10 PM

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Posted on Oct 19, 2017 11:55 AM

It is the customized version that I Bookmarked to Favorites in Safari.

Your understanding of how bookmarks interact with THIS site is not correct. When you save a Bookmark, the only thing saved is what is showing in the URL bar that top of Safari.


For sites like ebay or Amazon, you save a thing that may go on for three lines and has tons of information in it. Those site use the URL to hold some of their customization.


For this site, it is ONLY a pointer to the site main page, and does not include ANY of your customization. Saving a bookmark of an older versions of the page will not help you. All these bookmark will be exactly the same. If you lookout the saved bookmark, it is ONLY the URL of the site main page, and nothing more. Nothing more can be saved in a bookmark, because nothing more is being added to the URL.


I tried the site (which i never visited before). I made two changes, then left the site. I now have cookies and data from this site.


This site saves your customizations as cookies AND data. If you have not allowed the site to save cookies, you will not get your customizations presented to you when you return to the site.

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Oct 19, 2017 11:55 AM in response to Colonel_Biggs

It is the customized version that I Bookmarked to Favorites in Safari.

Your understanding of how bookmarks interact with THIS site is not correct. When you save a Bookmark, the only thing saved is what is showing in the URL bar that top of Safari.


For sites like ebay or Amazon, you save a thing that may go on for three lines and has tons of information in it. Those site use the URL to hold some of their customization.


For this site, it is ONLY a pointer to the site main page, and does not include ANY of your customization. Saving a bookmark of an older versions of the page will not help you. All these bookmark will be exactly the same. If you lookout the saved bookmark, it is ONLY the URL of the site main page, and nothing more. Nothing more can be saved in a bookmark, because nothing more is being added to the URL.


I tried the site (which i never visited before). I made two changes, then left the site. I now have cookies and data from this site.


This site saves your customizations as cookies AND data. If you have not allowed the site to save cookies, you will not get your customizations presented to you when you return to the site.

Oct 19, 2017 2:51 PM in response to Colonel_Biggs

If you look at your list of bookmarks for this site, they will all be identical: the top-level URL for this site.


If you have enabled cookies for this site, and made changes to your parameters, you should be able to inspect the list of cookies by site and see that there are now saved cookies and data for this site.


If this is not working after you have allowed cookies, made changes, and verified that cookies are indeed being saved, then the web site is malfunctioning, and you should contact the site's WebMaster for assistance.

Oct 21, 2017 6:19 PM in response to Colonel_Biggs

Safari has a very rich ability to have separate web sites left open as Tabs. If left open, you can immediately go back to exactly where you left off.


If that is what you wanted, you have made a very poor choice in deciding to use Favorites instead.


If you inspect the Favorites list, you will see that it includes, as I said, ONLY items in the URL, and nothing more. Anything else saved would have to be provided by cookies and stored site data.

Oct 26, 2017 6:40 AM in response to Eric Root

Based on Grant's suggestion, I looked up tabs via Google, and found an excellent article under Safari Help, entitled "Use Tabs for Webpages." It also describes pinning a website. If one keeps the Safari page minimized during the day, instead of shutting it down, the changes that I make to a particular site still remain. This is true if I minimize the site before turning off the computer. But, if I delete the Safari page after using it, I must start from scratch the next time. I open Safari.


Thanks for your response.

Oct 19, 2017 7:38 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Sir Grant --


Thanks for the reply. I have been traveling; hence, the tardy reply.


In Google Chrome for Windows, one can edit the Chrome Settings page so that on Startup one can "continue where you left off." The page for tabs is very similar to the page in Safari. The Favorites in Safari are Bookmarks, I believe, and when one selects one of the Bookmarks/Favorites, the URL appears to override the previous selection. In Google Chrome, I am under the impression that all of the tabs are always open, so to speak. When one selects a tab to open, it is not overriding the last tab that had been opened.


Being new to Safari (and to the Mac), I'm not sure that I understood your question with respect to allowing Safari to "save" that info for the web site. How does one go about accomplishing same? (I am using OS X 10.12.6.)

Oct 19, 2017 8:21 AM in response to Colonel_Biggs

If you are talking about back history that which websites you have browsed in past .it can be viewed by clicking on History > show all history ( take cursor on top menu bar ) .

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In your case , if you don't want to delete the back history and website data ( that is saved in form of cookies ) don't delete by going to clear all history and website data .

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Oct 19, 2017 10:59 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I was looking at Privacy under System Preferences, not Safari Preferences. Mine matches up with yours.


The site that I use is Stockcharts.com. The URL is: http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui


This takes you to an initial screen. By scrolling down below the chart of the Dow Jones Industrial Average, there are a host of attributes that one may apply to customize the chart. It is the customized version that I Bookmarked to Favorites in Safari. But, when one returns to this site (fro another site, via the Favorites menu), one is returned to the initial/login screen. And, this is what I am attempting to avoid, since I access this site repeatedly throughout the day. Both Chrome and Internet Explorer handle this procedure slightly differently, but both work.


I would have included a Print Screen version of the web page, but after saving the screen by means of Shift-Command-3, I was unable to insert it into this reply, using Command-V. Still learning!

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