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macOS High Sierra 10.13 slow graphics after battery sleep

2017 MacBook Pro 3.1Ghz

Having upgraded to macOS High Sierra 10.13, the graphics have slowed down significantly after sleep.


Steps to reproduce:

1. Close lid (default power settings)

2. Unplug from mains power

3. Wait 1 hour

4. Open lid and login

5. Try a graphics intensive app or game and notice a slow down?


Is this a known issue?


- Have a tried a clean install of 10.13.

- Have tried reverting to 10.12 (problem does not exist on 10.12.6)


The only option is to reboot.

MacBook Pro TouchBar and Touch ID, macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Posted on Oct 18, 2017 9:46 AM

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Posted on Oct 22, 2017 2:53 AM

To update you further, I have reverted to macOS Sierra 10.12.6.

Although High Sierra promises great foundations for the future, I don't feel it's ready yet. Graphics and wake from sleep are quite fundamental issues and professionals require stability.


Looking forward to when these issues are resolved.. For now 10.12.6 is great.


Thanks,

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Nov 27, 2017 9:29 PM in response to cpdmac

Just tried to switch into hibernatemode 0 and close lid for about 5-6 hours (we're both go actually sleep).

After wake up tried in World of Warcraft and nope: 120 fps in last zone with 2K resolution became 18 and no sizzle heard and metal stripe above touchbar became very hot. After MBP reboot R560 shows itself as a quite powerful GPU.


2017 MBP with 2.9 i7, 16 GB with R560.

Nov 28, 2017 7:32 AM in response to spearer

Same, or similar issue here. Even desktop apps, especially Java applications became very slow and unresponsive after the High Sierra Upgrade. I tried a completely new installation, resetting NVRAM, SMC, ... but the issue persisted. Also 10.13.1 did not improve the situation. I could hardly work on the MacBook anymore. It was much worse when working on an external display, which forced the switch to the Nvidia card.

I did now downgrade to Sierra and the problem is gone. Hopefully this will be resolved soon.


MacBook Pro 15 - Mid 2014 with NVIDIA GT 750M

Nov 28, 2017 10:22 AM in response to borgeindergaard

Didn't have any success with different hibernate modes either. The problem is not random or dependent on GPU usage for me either.

Every time my Macbook goes to sleep for several hours GPU performance is bad until I reboot the machine.


I can boot the machine completely fresh, start no program at all and shut the lid directly after logging in -> several hours later: bad GPU performance.


The performance is also always on the same "bad" level, meaning benchmarks during this low performance state are always consistent. Seems like the GPU driver is not coming back from sleep to high performance mode again.

Nov 28, 2017 11:48 AM in response to michagoldfine

I must say that for me High Sierra is faster overall both at launching apps (probably due to the new file system) and graphics (probably due to WindowServer is now using Metal). But this slow-down issue happened for me once on High Sierra on my MacBook Pro, and that suer isn't something that happened on Sierra. So I decided to install the Nvidia Web Driver, since the MacBook Pro I have has Nvidia graphics. I guess all those on AMD graphics just have to wait…


iOS 11 I agree is noticeably slower than iOS 10, at least on a iPhone 6.


Anyway, macOS 10.13.2 beta 5 is out now, maybe it will take care of things?

Nov 28, 2017 12:19 PM in response to spearer

I've been floating back and forth between this thread, and a few on reddit that are detailing others' experience(s) with this particular issue with graphics and macOS 10.13(.1) and the general consensus seems to be that the performance slow down/graphics issue isn't immediate after boot up, but takes time to set in--whether it's a sleep/wake issue, or just a general "time since boot" problem..I don't know.


I can appreciate the attempts at a fix by installing updated graphics drivers, but for those of us with the dedicated only graphics (in my case mid-2015 15"/iris pro only), those fixes don't begin to address the issue. Which is why I'm lead to believe the issue at hand is more a system wide problem and not related to any specific hardware or specs. Perhaps as has been suggested on here and elsewhere; metal 2...?


These issues are overall greatly irritating, but IMO, should serve as a lesson to those of us (*presumably most of us who belong to these support threads...because, let's be honest..we are a self selecting group...) that waiting a few months and keeping an eye on the tech headlines isn't always a bad decision..

Nov 28, 2017 12:25 PM in response to sff29

You're right sff29, waiting might have helped. But I don't see this problem being mentioned in major headlines, but I might have missed it. It's quite a subtle problem that many users might not even notice when it occurs. Even Apple doesn't mention this problem anywhere, as my encounters with several support guys have shown. They just keep you busy with stupid tests and SMC/PRAM-resets instead of saying "we hear you, there is a problem, just wait until we fix it".

Nov 28, 2017 12:32 PM in response to Sg1team

Sg1team - I agree. I wasn't trying to be lecturing, or attempting to hold my head higher than some..As I too, am in this boat..


And you're right, there hasn't been any "real" coverage of this issue, which IMO only adds to the frustration..


I absolutely share your frustration when it comes to dealing with  on these issues...I can't tell you how man times I've started support tickets that end in me throwing my hands up and eventually googling the issue and finding the solution myself either on here, or through basic workarounds that never had me zapping the PRAM, or resetting the SMC

Nov 28, 2017 12:38 PM in response to sff29

sff29 don't worry, I didn't take it that way ;-)


My guess about the low media coverage is either a) the problem is not as widespread as we might think or b) many people just don't notice it.


I am awaiting yet another call of apple support tomorrow, let's see what they have in store for me this time. There is no way I am going to reinstall the OS though, so fingers crossed xD

Nov 28, 2017 2:11 PM in response to sff29

Aha, it happens also for you with Intel only graphics. Sorry to hear. And yes, sure it could be something in Metal 2 and/or the WindowServer process that needs fixing, but this is just guessing on my part. 🙂 At the same time I wonder what it is that Nvidia is doing with their Web Driver that seems to help – I mean, this is still running on the same macOS 10.13.1. Hmm….

Nov 28, 2017 9:56 PM in response to spearer

Just to sum my attempts and trying:


- Changing hibernate mode from 0 to 3 and backwards has no effect;

- Nvidia GPU users can try Web drivers, i have AMD and no chances to try it;

- Logging out and in had no effect;

- The one and only helpful solution is full reboot (which may be veeeery annoying for HDD and old machines users);

- High bitrate videos and heavy web-sites become laggy and freezing (WebGL-powered sites like http://ufomammoot.de/en/ or iPhone X page on apple.com with all that JS-transitions and parallax);

- Games like World of Warcraft and software with intense GPU usage (Vray + C4D GPU rendering) may be unstable and notebook became very hot. I got full system hang and had to hard power-off computer few times in two days.

Nov 29, 2017 4:28 AM in response to ho_ax

hi ho_ax / all,


have you tried engaging the discrete graphics card and then putting machine to sleep?


I've been using a simple "hello triangle" graphics app to do this, the Radeon engages, I shut the lid ... Later on awake the FPS is still in fast mood.


I could be wrong but I'm 99% sure this works.


I reckon any app which forces the discrete card to activate will do the job (google chrome forces it on but due to bloat I removed chrome so I can't test it for this).


--ak

Nov 29, 2017 9:15 PM in response to alexkay99

That works!

Thank you, I got temporary stable dGPU work:

- I run World of Warcraft as intensive GPU using game;

- log off to the title screen (fullscreen);

- close the lid;

- then we both went to sleep;

- voila! After waking up dGPU runs on its actual speeds!


This is definitely not a final and absolute solution, but it's a huge progress 😉

macOS High Sierra 10.13 slow graphics after battery sleep

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