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I have 3rd gen I pad how can I update to i. O .s. 10

I have 3rd gen I pad and would like to continue to upgrade my iOS to 10 or even 11. How can I do that when it seems my I pad does not suport this.

iPad (3rd gen) Wi-Fi + Cellular, iOS 9.3.5

Posted on Oct 18, 2017 5:48 PM

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Posted on Oct 19, 2017 8:42 PM

What's your “beef” with the new iPad 5th generation?

It's a new and cheaper priced standard iPad with many modern and current up to date spec!



https://www.apple.com/ipad-9.7/specs/

This is a very good iPad for the money.

iPad Air 1 is, already, a 4-year old iPad model!

iPad Air 2 is, already, a 3- year old iPad!

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Nov 7, 2017 12:05 PM in response to Mythtery

I really don’t see Apple patching older iOS devices and older iOS versions.

Apple may or may not patch iOS 10, but I am not expecting any security patches for iOS 9 or earlier.

This vulnerability could simply force older IDevice users to upgrade to new iDevices if they are THAT concerned/paranoid about the KRACK issue.

Apple introduced the new lowest priced 2017 iPad 5 to get older iDevice users to upgrade their older, aging iPads.

The KRACK vulnerability could force the issue which Apple’s been trying to get older iDevice users to do.


To avoid the KRACK vulnerability, buy a new and current iOS and security updated Apple iDevice.


If you think Apple should patch older iOS versions and older iDevices, as well


Post your feedback and concerns about the KRACK vulnerability to older iOS devices to these feedback links.


iPad Feedback


http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html



iPod Touch Feedback


http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipodtouch.html



iPhone Feedback


http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html



Cognizant Apple employees read ALL feedback generated from all of the various feedback pages and transfers the data to the appropriate Apple personnel , but NO Apple employees will ever respond with any type of direct, individual replies from the feedback you post.



Good Luck to You!

Oct 18, 2017 5:59 PM in response to CJ Morgan

The iPad 2, 3 and 1st generation iPad Mini are all ineligible and excluded from upgrading to iOS 10 AND iOS 11.

They all share similar hardware architectures and a less powerful 1.0 Ghz CPU that Apple has deemed insufficiently powerful enough to even run the basic, barebones features of iOS 10.

Why would you want to upgrade, anyways?

Since iOS 8, older iPad models such as the iPad 2, 3 and 4 have only been getting the most basic of iOS features.

Older iPad users get none of the newest and coolest cutting edge features that newer model iDevices, with better hardware specs, can handle with more aplomb.



Plus, the iPad 2 and 3 are the only two supported models left that use the much outdated 30 pin dock connector.



FYI,

Just because your iPad 3 is no longer able to upgrade to the latest iOS doesn't mean your iPad 3 is suddenly useless.

Your iPad 3 will work as it always has and the apps you have installed on it will continue to update and receive some level of app updates relevent to your current iOS.

You have had four years of iOS upgrades and updates.

Your iPad 3 will still do everything it does now and you will, get, at least, another full year, perhaps two, if you decide you want to wait longer to get a new or newer iPad model.



Your iPad 3 is NOT, suddenly, becoming obsolete or useless.

So, your options are really keep using your iPad 3 or purchase a new iPad if you feel you need or want to.

Your current iPad 3 will still work and continue to receive app updates until sometime through this Fall 2017, when, with the recent introduction of iOS 11, ALL support for older 32 bit iDevices and any iOS 32 bit apps will come to a final end.

Your iPad 3 will still work and function as it always has, but will no longer receive any more app updates after the Fall of 2017.

The final app updates your iPad 3 will receive will be its last!

Your iPad 3 should STILL be receiving app updates, currently, but look for this to end sometime soon.



This is why Apple introduced the new, lower cost 2017 iPad 5 model, in April

Apple is trying to get older iPad 2, 3, 4 and 1st gen Mini iPad users to upgrade to more modern iPad hardware in anticipation of the recent introduction/release of iOS 11, which WILL render all older 32 bit iDevices obsolete.



Good Luck to You!

Nov 2, 2017 11:46 AM in response to MichelPM

But what about a security update to fix the wifi key reinstallation attack? This is a pretty big security flaw that absolutely needs a fix on all wifi devices, and for my use purposes my 3rd generation iPad suits me just fine. I shouldn't have to buy new hardware when Apple could easily release a security patch--they released one last year in fact for another security issue. But this time I'm only seeing a fix for KRACK in iOS 11.1; if they don't patch iOS 9 & 10, it's pretty poor customer service that will, in fact, drive me away from all things Apple--and i have a pretty Apple-heavy household.

Nov 2, 2017 2:08 PM in response to m1nd7r1p

If you read about the KRACK Bluetooth vuinerabikity, to date, this was only a “proof of concept” vulnerability.

This vuinerabikity, to date, was tested and directly affected Windows and Android mobile devices.

There has been no definitive confirmation of whether the KRACK vulnerability affects iOS directly or indirectly as iOS is the ONLY mobile OS that is sandboxed to Apple’s ecosystem.

Like OS X/macOS for this KRACK vulnerabiiity to penetrate an iOS system, it may require some sort of user interaction to install it!

Next, to date, there is no presence of KRACK “out in the wild”.

Until such time as this vulnerability actually makes itself known outside of a “proof of concept” stage, I don’t think anyone running older versions of iOS should be worried or fearful.

Even less so if you aren't using Bluetooth 24/7 on your iOS device.


IMSO, I do not think Apple will NOT go back to older iOS versions to patch this vulnerability,

How far back in iOS you suggest Apple go to fix this vulnerability?

Apple ONLY patched this for its current iOS.

Apple may or may not patch for KRACK on iOS 10, either.



I am still using iPad 2 and 3 models and I am not really too concerned about this

Been using iOS 9.3.5 on these iPad models for over a year, now!

I’m not worried.

Until this thing makes an appearance out in world and on actual mobile devices, “the sky is NOT falling”!


Good Luck to You!

Nov 7, 2017 11:14 AM in response to MichelPM

The KRACK (Key Reinstallation AttaCK) vulnerabilities are nothing to do with bluetooth. It is a vulnerability found in most implementations of WPA2 WiFi's 4-way handshake protocol, which is used to establish secure WiFi encryption. KRACK requires no software installation nor any interaction on the client device. It basically works by tricking devices to talk to a rogue access point with the same MAC address as your real one (i.e. the same MAC as your WiFi router / Personal Hotspot / WiFi Repeater). The rogue access point then tricks the reuse (reinstallation) of the same keystream nonce, such that the same keystream is repeatedly used. This makes decryption relatively trivial and thus effectively renders WPA2-PSK WiFi network encryption pretty much useless.


A full detailed description can be found at https://www.krackattacks.com/


A simplified explanation can be found at https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/10/16/wi-fi-at-risk-from-krack-attacks-her es-what-to-do/


iOS 11.1 fixes CVE-2017-13080. It's unclear if 11.1 fixes the other KRACK vulnerabilities. There's also a new non-KRACK WiFi vulnerability (see https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/11/02/iphones-get-a-krack-patch-and-a-wi-f i-0-day-on-the-same-day/ ).


As for KRACK only being "Proof of concept", that may have been true the day that it was publicly announced. However, because the vulnerability is reasonably well documented, you can be sure that talented hackers have very likely figured out how to use it. You can also be pretty certain that a script will appear fairly soon too. Detection will be difficult too: Remember, this is a vulnerability that involves nothing been installed on either the AP or client to work. I'm not saying you need to panic (the attacker has to be within WiFi range after all - and unless you're perceived as a high worth individual, it's more likely that attackers will be more interested in going after business traffic or target congested wifi areas). That said, it's probably a good idea to apply an additional layer of encryption by using VPN and by using https sites instead of http ones. If possible do online banking / shopping via physically wired connections.



As for patching old OS's, I'd like to think that Apple will issue some security patches. It's in Apple's own interest to do so. Vulnerabilities like KRACK could be potentially be used to compromise LAN wide security. Leaving customers vulnerable does nothing for Apple's PR. It's not good for brand loyalty either: cheaper competitors' devices are, in many cases, receiving retrospective security patches.


I don't think anyone using an "old" device (iPhone 4S was still on sale in Sept 2014) expects loads of new features. They just want their device to work safely and securely until they choose to upgrade. If the issue is cost, Apple could offer an reasonably-priced patch subscription service for devices, say, 4 years old or more. It's v.likely that the iOS WPA2 source code hasn't changed much in years (given that WPA2 hasn't changed) - and that code is likely to be in it's own library. How hard could it be? Change the included library reference to the updated one, increment the iOS version number and recompile? But what do I know 😉

Nov 8, 2017 12:52 AM in response to MichelPM

Forcing people to upgrade might be Apple’s intention, but it’s really not a good look given that most of the other companies in the mobile/laptop space are issuing retrospective patches. Apple has made great in roads in recent years, and much of that is based on the perception that Apple stuff just works and has great aftercare. I’m not sure how long that perception can last if they leave customers vulnerable through wilful inaction. Will customers keep paying a premium if they effectively get thrown under the bus after 3 years of ownership, while people who buy the Sumsan Giggidy are likely to receive patches for years to come? Most peoples future purchases are informed by past experience...


And consider this: Did Microsoft offer security patches for Windows XP for 12 years out of the goodness of their dark little hearts 😉, or because they could see a rash of civil litigation cases and huge corporate fines if they didn’t? (clue 1: 12 years is 10 years + the 2 years XP was actually on sale before Vista crashed everyones party/PC 😉. clue 2: EU consumer rights law protects 0.5 billion consumers re any products sold in the EU for 7 years after point of sale, with many EU member states going further with 10 years of statutory (i.e. not optional) protection for products bought within those states. clue 3: Consumer rights law is predicated on a product being fit for purpose)... But I digress. Look over there, nothing important to see here. There’s no parallels to be drawn between XP and iOS security patches. None at all. No really. Honest guv.


To reiterate, noone is asking for new features here. This is about fixing stuff that was broken out of the box. The KRACK vulnerability wasn’t created by ethical hackers: It was discovered. Given that the fixes are likely to be relatively simple (copy and paste from iOS 11.1 comms library or whatever), it’s difficult to see why Apple wouldn’t just get on with it. If they don’t it’s a PR disaster, another poke in the eye for brand loyalty and potentially a legal minefield. If they do, it’s likely to be a quick fix (no skin of their nose), boost customer confidence which will make them feel happier about buying Apple products in future. And it’ll make us all feel warm and fuzzy inside too. It seems like a no brainer to me.


But I suspect your right.. I just hope you’re not.

I have 3rd gen I pad how can I update to i. O .s. 10

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