Slow Graphics Performance MacOS High Sierra

Am I the only one that witnessing horribly slow graphics performance

and high CPU usage in 10.13?


Any solutions to speed things up?


Youtube videos 1080p are jumpy

Quicklook of 3D models are horrible

System UI animations are jumpy

Very high CPU usage ("windowserver")

VMs are consuming 2X CPU as they did in 10.12

Had a Kernel panic twice already


Did Apple's graphics firmware/driver change destroy the performance of older models??

I can't trust the "updates" anymore. Both on MacOs and iOS sides. They are killing performance.



Using

2.3 GHz Intel Core i7

16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2 GB

Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB

MacBook Pro with Retina display, High Sierra

Posted on Nov 1, 2017 10:43 AM

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Posted on Nov 19, 2017 3:45 PM

It seems that installing the NVIDIA driver works for me. Once installed you get a new NVIDIA preference pane where you can choose to use the NVIDIA driver or the bundled macOS driver. Worth a shot.


For macOS 10.13.0:

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/126157/en-us


For macOS 10.13.1:

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/126538/en-us

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Nov 10, 2017 12:56 PM in response to Lexiepex

I'm almost sure this is a software issue introduced in 10.13.

I downgraded back to 10.12 and graphics are very smooth (for a Mac)


The issue seems to be with discrete graphics utilization in 10.13. I understand they made a lot of changes for metal 2 & allow external cards now. This can very well be where the bugs are residing.


The performance shortcomings are similar to memory leaks (graphics memory leak?)

After loading graphic heavy webpages, the UI slows down and is jumpy, even when CPU usage is low and only background system processors are active. Logging off or restarting fixes the issue, utill the next slow down.


Given that graphics issues are rampant (and also APFS takes away more than it gives, IMO) I'll probably stay with 10.12 for the foreseeable future. 10.13 really turned me off to upgrading for the 1st time on Mac. (iOS 9 did that for iphone;)

Nov 22, 2017 4:52 AM in response to ParhamS

I didn't mean to mark this as "solved".

I was reading on iPhone and apparently tapped on solved without realizing.


Seems like the only "solution" for those who rely on performance is a downgrade to 10.12.


Since 10.13 changes the partitioning, I had to erase the entire drive (in 10.12 recover) and re-partition.

Which of course requires full backup. I chose simple copy paste to external drive followed by copying Applications, Preferences, Library,... back on the fresh install. (TM is too slow for me)

Nov 22, 2017 5:03 AM in response to karlkalabaaaw

Yep.. 10.13 actually changes stuff all the way up, so its not just the one "volume" to erase and reinstall. You have to format the whole thing (base on my searches)


I had to

-back up all partitions

-erase both partitions individually

-erase SSD

-re-partition SSD


I'd complain more, but I don't know any other desktop OS that hasn't done crazy stuff like this.

Dec 4, 2017 6:59 PM in response to kecinzer-cz

For me the Nvidia driver helps but only partially. For my regular work it has made this bearable and my fans aren't on constantly. However if I play a 3D game I still get terrible FPS, no improvement there.


My conclusion is that the Nvidia driver seems to make things a little better, depending on what you're doing.


FYI my configuration is a late 2013 Retina MBP with NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2 GB.

Dec 5, 2017 12:15 PM in response to ParhamS

Apple's QC leaves much to be desired

NVIDIA is likely at least partly to blame for this problem. They have been unwilling to provide the deep detailed operation of their graphics chips, which has made it impossible for Apple to write new Drivers.


NVIDIA has been "late to the party" as evidenced by your now being able to get newer drivers direct from NVIDIA web site.


¿Where were these "updated" drivers when the software was originally released? The approximate schedule was not a secret, but NVIDIA was not there with updated Drivers or the information to allow Apple to write Drivers.


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if privacy is important to you, the first to be removed should be THIS:

[Engagé] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist (Google, Inc. - installé 2017-10-13) [Rechercher]

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Downgrade is completely possible, but it requires a BLANK disk. You MUST have at least one complete Trusted Backup to proceed.

Dec 5, 2017 1:36 PM in response to ParhamS

I'm not sure if Time Machine backup would allow restore from 10.13 to 10.12, that would make life easy.


You can only go backward to a Blank drive.


But you could erase the drive (provided you had a good backup) and Install MacOS (older version) on it. When you do the last Restart, it comes up in Setup Assistant, and will ask you if you want to create a new User, or restore from Time Machine, or import from anther source.

Dec 19, 2017 12:07 AM in response to Jimmyshortarms

If you can boot fine and use the computer in safe mode, I doubt this is a hardware issue.

Suggestion

make complete back up, preferably a bootable one on an external drive.

Format your drive. Install 10.13 (yes 10.13)

Let it go all the way. Reboot a few times

(In case there was issues with firmware update last time)

Then again, format the entire drive and install a clean 10.12

The main issue with the rest of us here is limited to graphics handling after OS boots, and mainly with discrete Nvidia graphics.

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