iMac Unusably slow after High Sierra Upgrade

I have a 2014 27" i7 Retina iMac. It has slowed to the point of being unusable after upgrading to High Sierra. Simply opening Finder takes more than 5 minutes before the files are done displaying and the beachball stops.


Is there anything that I can try before I restore from a backup?

MacBook Pro, Windows 7

Posted on Nov 10, 2017 7:06 PM

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Posted on Feb 27, 2018 9:48 PM

High Sierra rendered my 2012 MB Pro nearly useless, while my 2011 iMac with identical i5 CPU, system and applications hummed along smoothly. The problem turns out to be that the OS is optimized for SSD storage, and it will bog down horribly if storage I/O isn't as fast as it expects. I upgraded the MB Pro to an SSD, and the machine instantly became wildly fast and glitch-free. The 4 GB of RAM is more than enough for routine work, w/ MS Office, a browser, and Acrobat reader all in use - probably because caching is so effective with an SSD.

The giveaway was the one difference between the machines: the iMac already had an SSD. The upgrade is a no-brainer at today's prices; my 500 GB SSD was $45 delivered. More effective than a memory upgrade, and cheaper to boot. Just do it, folks.

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Feb 9, 2018 4:19 AM in response to thadwald

I did all the above - and restored on a reformatted drive from a backup. It is still bad. The photos daemons do not seem to be the issue. Anything I start from disk (apps mainly gets up slow). I observed that the 3TB Fusion disk shows now up 2 separate things - a hard disk and an internal SSD. Is that a problem? Does the SSD get used or is left completely out?

Feb 25, 2018 7:57 AM in response to DanielDay

Me as well. They say 1 in 10 complain. So the issue is bigger than apple knows.

I did everything in this thread. Finally reloaded Sierra and wiped out everything. I did lose some work unfortunately due to me not backing up as I always had.


It worked slowly for about a week (slow but not crawling), today it went into the ice-age retreat of slowness.


I did not reload any programs I had previous to crash like Adobe Premiere etc. I wanted to test the OS with NO add ons or additional programs.


This morning when I tried to read emails and the spinning apple circle of doom appeared. After several minutes the mountain screen backdrop, back to iceage action. Completely un usable.


I spent $2500. For this macbookpro 5 years ago. Thats 500 per year. Going back to Microsoft. I can deal with viruses but not systems.


Best of luck to all of you.

Feb 27, 2018 11:24 PM in response to cvalene

I finally updated, knowing deep down in my gut I shouldn’t have. My Mac was running perfectly but I got tired of the annoying update notification and updated. Now it takes almost 10-15 minutes for start up and everything takes forever to load. How can an update be more of a downgrade, I’m so ****** off and I use my Mac for music, I’ve been loyal to Apple since 08 and after iPhone and now my iMac going backwards after an update, I’m done.

Feb 28, 2018 6:15 AM in response to thadwald

I have a late 2013 i7 rerina macbook pro which I've upgraded yesterday from sierra to High Sierra.

Frankly, I've noticed my system gets slower after any OS upgrade, but this time it turn up useless. My mouse has a significant lag, the mac oftenly freezes and everything else runs as on an pentium 486 (for whom remember those).

is apple doing this deliberately? it it having the same ''performance adjustments with the battery life'' if so, why doesn't run normally while on charger? Why is this happening actually and what is the solution?

I feel like my trust in this company fades away...

Mar 2, 2018 6:25 PM in response to jpdemers

So to get an SSD I'll have to take it to someone to do it? Why will I be happier? I'm not familiar with any of this so please help me out here.


I tried to backup from time machine before this POS was installed but it was a disaster. Something is wrong-wrong now. So I have wiped my computer and it's running High POS Sierra. Still have issues even typing this. Running EtreCheck report again. I forgot to post the first one but may have a better view since nothing is on this computer except for factory apps.


What a headache this has been.

Mar 8, 2018 7:08 AM in response to alpacas09

I even came to the point I never ever buy Apple stuff anymore. And this is coming from a user that started with the Mac Pro 2008, and bought a new machine every 2 years after 2012 - same as with the iPhone. Now I just can't catch up financially anymore, and slowing down older, still very viable, macs and mobiles makes me lose money as a Pro-Mac user... I'm looking towards Android and the HP Z800 solutions now. Sorry Apple... the marriage is over.

Mar 10, 2018 7:58 PM in response to Allan Jones

Well Mr. Jones my wife's clean install of High Sierra on a 2013 iMac with 8 gb, i7 and the faster Iris video. It specs out much better than the old 2007. Yet that 2007 iMac running El Cap w i5, 6gb and a much slower graphics is way snappier in almost every task other than loading web graphics. The 2007 has all the stuff your answer is using to excuse Apple's poorly designed OS update; MS Office, iDrive, Sophos AV, and various handy ulitilities.


I don't need your standard horse manure about Windows. I've been using Macs since '84. This isn't normal. High Sierra has too many "...steaming pile of useless cool graphic BS" that slows down everything you do. Nothing opens with a snap. Nothing. Not even a cursor on a line of text. You have to wait for EVERYTHING. I'm definitely going to back her up. Most likely just to Sierra. Works awesome on our daughters Mac Book.


I work for an industrial CAD/CAM software company. Sometimes we release a real stinker. Our clients have to backup to keep the machinery rolling. Apple should own up to it's failure or at least clarify the minimum requirements for installing High Sierra. Setting the minimum by the year is total BS. I'd say 12gb RAM minimum on High Sierra. And a video card stronger than Apple ever uses except on the expensive graphic models. Macs are notoriously underpowered in the mid-range models.


BTW, this isn't Anne. This is Richard. I'm doing my computer thing on her station tonight.

Mar 11, 2018 8:39 AM in response to afares

Totally agree with Richard. The specs on my MacBook Pro read just fine in Etrecheck, but the reality is my laptop is very slow and laggy compared to running Sierra, and that was after a 100% clean install. I wish I could go back to Sierra but I don't have a copy that is clean enough to reinstall from. Is it possible to go back to my old copy and then do a clean install from there of Sierra?

Mar 19, 2018 3:25 AM in response to toadc

toadc wrote:


It's also why this forum, helpful at times, is rarely my first choice when searching for solutions. EDIT: never my first choice unless it's the only choice.

Too bad and your loss as most of the regular contributors here, myself included, know much more about Macs and other Apple products than anyone who comes here claiming to need help only to question that help or come into these support communities to assigned other blame or make unsubstatiated claims and accusations, rather than get any help with their Mac issues.

You deprive yourself of knowledge from Apple/Mac users with 10-30 years of experience and knowledge!


The reason the many of the regular contributors stopped posting in this post, from what I have been reading, so far, is that the attitudes and tones of the users posting in this post has not been good and from what I’ve read, somewhat accusatory.

So, they left this conversation to leave those convinced of other ideas on their own, and maybe rightfully so.

Most of this post now is full of new users with a first time post trying to figure things out on their own, with other first time posters, in this post, now.

Just because of a continuing de-evolving conversation which has deviated from everyone here trying to get actual technical troubleshooting help, which is THE ONLY purpose to these Apple support communities.

Not finger pointing, arguing, debating, whining or complaining.

We are all users here to help to solve Apple product problems, not to field angry ranting, whining and/or complaining!

Many of us are all just regular volunteer users helping in these supoort communities, like any other users here and we do NOT work for Apple and we are NOT Apple customer service and these support communities aren’t Apple’s complaint forums.

Apr 4, 2018 7:16 AM in response to thadwald

It has nothing to do with your system! Just business tactics from Apple.


I have an older MacBook Pro and a 2017 iMac:

My MacBook Pro is now so painfully slow it's not worth using.

My iMac is noticeably slower but thankfully new enough to handle the new operating system - though I'm seriously considering going back a version (time is money in my business).


Bottom line, if you have a relatively new Mac, you may not notice a difference. If your Mac is older, Apple is giving you that extra bit of encouragement to buy a new Mac.


I used to love Apple but they keep pulling crap like this and it's annoying and very disappointing. That's putting it kindly!

Apr 30, 2018 8:37 AM in response to Allan Jones

I agree it is foolish to avoid updates & technological advancements altogether, however the main issue with High Sierra is:


BEFORE High Sierra, the Mac ran fine. No issues, no slow performance, etc. AFTER the High Sierra upgrade with no other installations or changes (no useless third-party utilities added, no installing 500GB of random stuff to just fill up your hard drive for no reason) - it runs NOT fine. It is slower and has more issues.


So if the Paint My Kitchen plugin didn't cause problems before the upgrade, how is that at fault now after the upgrade?

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