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Question: Is it possible to not use iCloud without having issues with my Contacts?

This is the third time my Contact basically stopped working right because I'm not logged into iCloud. At this point you can't log into the iCloud without sharing your Computer password. I can't do that because I have confidential business information stored on my computer and I would be in violation of my client's trust.


This time, a Group in my Contacts is reverted to an old list from iCloud. This is a constantly changing group, and now I'm trying to send emails to people from 3 years ago. I am not connected to the cloud, but for some reason even if I open the group in my Contacts and click on Send email it goes to the iCloud list.


This is a serious problem in the software if it can't operate without being spied on.

iMac, macOS Sierra (10.12.6)

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What happens if you go to Contacts/Preferences/Accounts and uncheck Enable this account for the iCloud account?

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Nov 14, 2017 6:20 PM in response to Devin Jackson In response to Devin Jackson

At this point you can't log into the iCloud without sharing your Computer password.

Why do you believe this? Who do you feel you are sharing your password with?


This is a serious problem in the software if it can't operate without being spied on.


Who do you believe is spying on you?


Signing in to a cloud based service means being securely authenticated as the account holder. If you feel this is sharing a password, no cloud based service can avoid this.

Nov 14, 2017 6:20 PM

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Nov 16, 2017 12:15 PM in response to Eric Root In response to Eric Root

They're showing as both even though I am not signed into iCloud.


The problem is that even if I highlight the "On My Mac" group (which does have the right addresses) the email it creates contains the addresses from the 3 year old iCloud version that I can't get rid of. I can not edit any of the lists under "iCloud".

Nov 16, 2017 12:15 PM

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Nov 24, 2017 2:27 PM in response to Eric Root In response to Eric Root

I can delete and add all I want for the On My Mac contacts. The problem is that the iCloud contacts will always supersede the On My Mac contacts.


I just want to use my Mac without giving permission to Apple to access all of my information. It's looking like that is more and more impossible. I really hate my Windows computers, but at least when I tell them I don't want to use their "complimentary" services their products still "work".

Nov 24, 2017 2:27 PM

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Nov 25, 2017 1:16 PM in response to Eric Root In response to Eric Root

Thanks. I unchecked all of those boxes when I installed the OS update, but apparently you still have to uncheck them in each app. Also, I couldn't get to the iCloud to check what was selected because it won't let me log in without first sharing my computer password. This is way too much trouble just to not use something.

Nov 25, 2017 1:16 PM

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