high sierra problem create new user

yes, familar with Directory Utility, need to do it everytime I do su and need to setup a password.

You lost me on "Log out of the Current User and log back in “Other”" Only other accounts I have has Standard privilege (can’t be set to admin privileges via checkbox) and guest.

Could you describe why you are suggesting to turn on root user?

Thanks

An interesting update. I went into terminal as super user to list and delete groups. Here is what I find

- The 6 zombie groups I have are named 1 2 3 4 5 6 (I had 5 zombie groups and saw 1 2 3 4 5. Tried to create another account and got the 6th zombie group) Listing groups in terminal is dscl . -list /Groups

- Used dscl . -delete /Groups/# where # is 1 2 3 4 5 6. All zombie groups are removed now. Unfortunately, they still show up with various names in the form of "account name's Public Folder" in the Users & Groups preferences pane

Chatting with Apple senior support now. We'll see where this goes

Got it. Make sense. Will try that after getting off chat with Apple senior support. Capturing system data for them to send to engineering.

Using dscl on terminal did clean up the zombie groups and removed them from preferences pane (disappeared after awhile). I'll probably trying using dscl to create new users as well to see if thats more successful.

ok, never know about the hidden root login (other than in terminal). Test it out and got some interesting results

root can create an account just fine using Users & Groups pane. It does create a group in the form of "username's Public Folder" This is different from past accounts I've created. Perhaps its new in High Sierra?

root does not allow me to delete accounts or groups. Even the one it just created.

my normal account (with admin privilege) can't do any of this using Users & Groups preference pane. However, using dscl in terminal under my account allows me to do the following

- delete the zombie groups

- create a user using the command "dscl . -create /Users/username UserShell /bin/bash" and delete the account usig "dscl . -delete /Users/username"

But the account creation is partial from the OSX perspective. Seems to be just the UNIX portion. Users & Groups preference pane shows new account (with a slight delay, presumably UI sync) but without any names. Permission set to Standard and Home Folder under /Users is not created.

Seems like the UI is confused and the UNIX guts is still good.

Grabbed a dump and gave it to Apple, we’ll see what they say.

Interesting test.

Changing this using my main admin account fails. Names and various fields got all wacky. Changing it using root worked perfectly.

So clearly, something is going on with my main admin account. Maybe permissions? Ran First Aid on the volume and same problem persist.

Just an update to this thread. Apple engineers have identified this failure. They've seen it multiple times.

The admin account I tried to create a new account from didn't have a password. Once I put in a password, it all worked. I did delete the new account but the newly created group (in the form of accountname's Public Folder) was not deleted. Perhaps this is part of what they have to fix as well.

I'll wait for a future release for a true fix. For the time being, I'll live with a password.

The accountname's Public Folder group that is created with each account seems to be new and correct High Sierra behavior.

yes, this is the normal account create and delete process. Very familiar with it. Mine does not create the account using this procedure.

Sounds worth a try. Traveling at the moment and away from my Time Capsule. Will do in a couple of weeks and definitely report back.