Special characters: old Spanish escudo

Was there ever a symbol for this in the Mac character set pre-Euro? Ike a USD sign but with two vertical bars. If so I can't find it now.


Hope this forum is ok, I could not find one for Keyboard-related items.


Cheers, Colin

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Posted on Nov 25, 2017 1:48 PM

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Nov 27, 2017 8:23 AM in response to Colin Cohen

Colin


it is not an ASCII code, something long ago dumped in favour of Unicode, it is a glyph style. Part of how the font draws the dollar character.


In some places it is described as an Old Style Dollar.


Just as there are different forms of ampersand in different fonts, this is just another form of this character as drawn in Baskerville and the other fonts listed.


To get it you need to use those particular fonts or convert that character to a .svg or .pdf graphic.


Peter

Nov 26, 2017 11:17 AM in response to Colin Cohen

It really helps to provide the facts if you want prompt accurate answers. Especially as you are asking a question that is not only not Pages for Mac, it is actually not Mac.


Your App is probably using whatever monospace font is available in iOS, you haven't shown us.


As the link points out, the double stroke dollar sign is just a font stylistic convention and not considered a Unicode glyph.


It is not uniquely the escudos, as Scrooge MacDuck testified when he gazed over his swimming pool. Now that The Swamp is reverting to its natural state, non-trickle down economics run by alligators, it may become the character style to mark the return to the Good Old Days when only the Right People are allowed to possess money. A commodity wasted on the general populace.


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Peter

Nov 27, 2017 7:48 AM in response to Colin Cohen

Colin Cohen wrote:


Might I be able to type it as an ASCII code, if so what might the value be?


The ascii code is 24. It is the same for both forms of the dollar sign. The only way to get the form you want is to be able to have the right font active for that character. That's no problem for TextEdit, etc., but I did not see any way to choose a font in Timeline 2. Unless you can do that, the only way to have this display would be via a graphic I think.

Nov 26, 2017 3:27 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

Thank you both. It seems then that the answer is no! Actually going through the links from you both I could find a C with two vertical strokes and an S with two horizontals, but none of them an S with two verticals.


I assume it is because I don't have the right fonts installed, but I needed it to use in an app that defaults to its own anonymous font, so I'm stuck with spelling it out which takes too much space.


All hail the €!


Cheers, Colin

Nov 26, 2017 12:20 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

It really helps if you read the OP, and are less confrontational. As I said there 'Hope this forum is ok, I could not find one for Keyboard-related items.'


I AM using a Mac, Aeon Timeline 2.2 is a Mac beta version to work with the unreleased iOS version. I wanted to try a special character to see if it would sync correctly to the iOS beta, but I suspect that both apps only use a basic 7-bit character set, though not monospaced on either platform as you suggested.

Nov 26, 2017 12:49 PM in response to Colin Cohen

Colin


It really helps if you don't feed us information in dribs and drabs.


I always read the OP question, in an often vain attempt to extract sufficient clues to answer the question.


"Keyboard related" what?


And I doubt that Apple or any of its developers use 7 bit character sets when it never used them under the old Mac OS, long before it switched to Unicode and created iOS, Swift etc. The last system that used 7 bit was DOS. For a start you would not be able to type accented characters if the font was 7 bit, let alone the many additional punctuation available.


Peter

Nov 27, 2017 7:32 AM in response to Tom Gewecke

Thank you both for your help again: to go back to the start I thought 'special characters was clear enough, but I should perhaps have said 'character set' rather than 'keyboard'.


However, when I copy and paste the double-stroked dollar sign from one of the wiki pages linked to above it pastes accurately into a text editor TextEdit, Bean or Pages, but when I paste it here or into Character viewer I just get $. Ditto into my Timeline.


Might I be able to type it as an ASCII code, if so what might the value be?


Cheers, Colin

Nov 25, 2017 5:00 PM in response to Colin Cohen

From Wikipedia:


Support for the symbol varies. As of 2010, the Unicode standard considers the distinction between one- and two-bar dollar signs a stylistic distinction between fonts, and has no separate value for the cifrão.

Mac OS X supplies the following fonts containing distinct cifrãosigns:[citation needed] regular-weight Baskerville, Big Caslon, Bodoni MT, Brush Script MT, Garamond, STFangsong, STKaiti, and STSong ($).

It can also be input by typing lowercase

j
in Bookshelf Symbol 7. In LaTeX, with the textcomp package installed, the cifrão (S∥User uploaded file) can be input using the command
\textdollaroldstyle
.


Peter

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