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Hello, using the referenced machine and Sierra, browsing in Chrome, I clicked on a link to an obscure bicycle-related website that was hacked, it took me to *** [****** is not part of the URL, I've included it to keep this link safe] where a robot voice started to tell me I was hacked. URL checker sites tell me this is a dirty link. Closed everything down. Installed Bitdefender, which found refog.keylogger hidden away in a Time Machine backup on an EHD (file path 1 below). That seemed like enough evidence to me that I'd been hacked so I initialised the SSD and installed High Sierra. Now Bitdefender says it's blocking malware at file path 2 below. I can't find this file path when I follow instructions to show hidden files, and I'm confused about why there should be backups on the drive - I haven't set any up.


I disconnected the EHD after the key logger was found and have not reconnected it since initialising the SSD.


I'm aware that antivirus software can come up with false positives ... a keylogger seems very suspect though. Bitdefender has also created an alert about what seems likely to be a harmless file, at file path 3 below. Bitdefender has found this on both the referenced iMac and my early 2016 MacBook.


Am I compromised by any or all these? Any other checks I should do or other advice?


My next step would be to replace the SSD. This has already taken days of my time and I have reinstalled loads of apps and restored some files (from a cloud backup pre-dating the apparent attack) so naturally I would prefer not to do this, but I will if it's the best way forward. Many thanks ...


File path 1: /Volumes/Seagate Backup Plus Drive/Backups.backupdb/Peter’s iMac/2015-12-12-002735/Macintosh HD/Library/.smoke/Refog.app/Contents/MacOS/Refog=>(Mach-O I386 ALL)


File path 2: /Volumes/iMac Backup/Backups.backupdb/Peter’s iMac/2014-05-29-192346/Macintosh HD/Library/.smoke/Refog.app/Contents/MacOS/Refog=>(Mach-O PowerPC UnknownCPUSubtype)


File path 3: /Users/peter/Desktop/Documents/cleanup old docs - NOT SORTED/Documents - from around 2009/PDJ personal docs/Peter Backup/OutLook BkUp.pst=>[Time: 2004/01/29 00:54:00][Subject: RE: report from 20 november meeting][From: Peter Duncan-Jones]=>Min Brief re Donor Responses Nov 03 Mtg.doc

<Link edited by Host as following the procedures at the site may lead to damage to the user’s device>

IMAC (RETINA 5K, 27-INCH, LATE 2015), macOS Sierra (10.12.5)

Posted on Dec 10, 2017 2:42 AM

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Dec 10, 2017 8:52 PM in response to Pduncanj

I did visit it, love the robot voice eh 😀


These sites can vary, sometimes they're different for each user, based on where you're located, browser, computer… all sorts of things.


Here, it tried to keep the page open by constantly printing something, which requires a confirmation click, meaning the window/tab can't be closed in some browsers. Additionally, it tried to use FaceTime to make a voice call, doubtless to their fake helpline, who would have talked up near-certain doom which could be avoided by $$ or letting them access my computer or install their software.


Other reports on it suggest that yes, it sometimes will foist phishing or advertising software on visitors.



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Dec 10, 2017 9:47 PM in response to Pduncanj

>>So presumably if 'iMac Backup' was a volume on the EHD, it couldn't be found on the iMac SSD under these circumstances?


That's correct.


Although there's no way the software can run unless you restore it : macOS Sierra: Remove a backed-up item from your backup disk I believe it would be the same in High Sierra.

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Dec 10, 2017 8:25 PM in response to Pduncanj

The fake support website link was still 'live', by the way; but I see that it has been removed now.


You can't be hacked simply by visiting sites like that : only if you install or run some software that they might try to foist on you, or allow a 'telephone support person' to access your computer in order to remove some made-up threat.

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Dec 10, 2017 8:32 PM in response to PN2

File #3 could be a false alarm, or perhaps an email attachment containing what might be a dubious Word document.


#1 & #2 look real enough, but unlikely to have been added recently, or been recently active (assuming that BitDefender is reliable). You say that #2 can't be found : you mean there's no drive named iMac Backup or that it doesn't have backups on it ?.

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Dec 10, 2017 8:31 PM in response to PN2

Thanks a lot for the guidance. When I clicked on that link, I never even looked at the page (as I was opening it in a new tab), but as soon as the robot voice started talking I closed it. However I assumed I had already been hacked. I certainly didn't dare go back there ... I know nothing about hacking and how it works. It sounds like you went to that site? I didn't know it was a fake support website. Did it contain phishing tools? I'll feel more secure if I know it was just a sort of 'landing pad' from which the hackers entrap people when they take further actions.

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Dec 10, 2017 9:22 PM in response to PN2

Thank you for the further info. I've deleted file #3 and I'm not worried about this one.


#2: yes I also wondered whether it was actually recent or not. If there is a drive named 'iMac Backup', I can't find it. I'm not a very sophisticated user; I've tried CMD-Shift-. to show hidden files / folders in Finder. The 'Volumes' folder that then shows in 'Macintosh HD' contains only a 'Macintosh HD' alias, nothing else.


Does the OS X default state include such a backup folder? I didn't create it, and (perhaps due to ignorance) I don't see why a drive would continue a backup of itself.


I would definitely be happier if I could at least delete this file ...


Previously I've been unable to delete a file from within a backup, so any advice about that would be helpful. Presumably I could delete the whole backup.

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Dec 10, 2017 9:29 PM in response to PN2

Oh that's all very interesting. You said "Other reports on it suggest that yes, it sometimes will foist phishing or advertising software on visitors." How could I find these reports? Do you think I'm at risk, given I didn't click / download anything?

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Dec 10, 2017 9:38 PM in response to PN2

I do have an EHD with that name but I haven't connected it (due to the refog issue) since I initialised the iMac SSD. Bitdefender found file #2 after I initialised the iMac SSD. So presumably if 'iMac Backup' was a volume on the EHD, it couldn't be found on the iMac SSD under these circumstances?

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Dec 10, 2017 9:42 PM in response to Pduncanj

>>Do you think I'm at risk, given I didn't click / download anything?


No, you're not. Even if something had downloaded automatically, you would need to have opened it manually, or run the application.


Lots of people are fooled though; imagine that website minus the silly voice & looking a great deal like an Apple webpage… add a not too terrible sounding 'reset your Apple ID, we detected unusual activity' message… & many fall for it, starting by handing over their id & password.

Or say, a vital 'Flash' security update; or a 'codec' required for you to view a video, or a 'file viewer' for a pdf document.


Unfortunately, there are 'respectable' 😀 download sites which knowingly bundle adware & worse along with their (usually) genuine downloads, & rely on your reading the small print to opt out of it (even assuming that they take much notice of your wishes).

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