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Question: turn OFF secure empty trash

When updating to High sierra they took out the option in Finder preferences to turn on or off "Secure empty trash". I currently have it on and have no idea how to turn it off again. Help!

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Dec 11, 2017 11:23 AM in response to Sufi Girl In response to Sufi Girl

What makes you think you have Secure Empty Trash on all the time? Actually it's been removed from the system with the advent of SSD drives.


If you're getting this warning when you go to empty the Trash:

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that's not secure emptying. It's only a warning to give you a second chance of changing your mind. You can turn that warning off in the Finder/Preferences/Advanced pane by unchecking this checkbox:

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The only secure erasure is done in with Disk Utility and is only available for hard drives that are not solid state.

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Dec 11, 2017 11:23 AM

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Dec 11, 2017 3:03 PM in response to Old Toad In response to Old Toad

Hi! Thank you so much for responding so quickly!


The issue is that things delete automatically as soon as it's sent to the trash. The warning comes up when you PUT things in the trash then automatically empties it. (So when I actually look in the trash it's empty.) It's NOT a warning when I want to empty the trash. I wonder if it was a setting set up before updating to High Sierra and stuck when updating. Then it can't go back? Help!

Dec 11, 2017 3:03 PM

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Dec 27, 2017 4:21 AM in response to kennethfromsmyrna In response to kennethfromsmyrna

Seems there is no way to turn off secure empty trash. More sloppy work? Seems that way. I hope I am wrong.

Well, since there is no such thing as "secure empty trash" anymore, it would be impossible to turn it off. It is also impossible to turn it on.


In the case of Sufi Girl (above), the problem is that the permissions on the Trash folder are not correct, or there is something else wrong with the Trash folder. That can possibly be fixed by deleting the Trash folder in Terminal (it will recreate a new one), or by repairing the permissions on the home folder: Resolve issues caused by changing the permissions of items in your home folder - Apple Support


Note that you will also get that warning if you are trying to delete a file off a network drive in some circumstances.

Dec 27, 2017 4:21 AM

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Dec 27, 2017 4:57 AM in response to kennethfromsmyrna In response to kennethfromsmyrna

kennethfromsmyrna wrote:


Maybe you can help with the trash can not working at all? When I remove something to the trash can it just disappears. Nothing goes into the trash can, it just deletes.

That is the same problem, I think. Try repairing the permissions on your Home folder as listed in that link. If that doesn't work, we can try to delete the Trash folder.

Dec 27, 2017 4:57 AM

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Dec 27, 2017 5:01 AM in response to Sufi Girl In response to Sufi Girl

When an item is sent to trash folder , it immediately not get emptied by it own create a new user account an article for it How to test an issue in another user account on your Mac - Apple Support

Monitor this account if the issue still persists take back up of data and erase the drive and reinstall the OS an article for it macOS Sierra: Erase and reinstall macOS

Note : Trash folder is the major app of the OS , it should not be deleted / recreated by using terminal command , by doing so your system will get more corrupted .

Dec 27, 2017 5:01 AM

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Dec 27, 2017 6:28 AM in response to Barney-15E In response to Barney-15E

You wrote - can try to delete the Trash folder.

What are you suggesting is to delete the original trash folder this is the part of operating system and don't tell one day to delete if calendar , dictionary or mail application itself and recreate it by terminal commands , ridiculous .

Dec 27, 2017 6:28 AM

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Dec 27, 2017 9:48 AM in response to tygb In response to tygb

tygb wrote:


You wrote - can try to delete the Trash folder.

What are you suggesting is to delete the original trash folder this is the part of operating system and don't tell one day to delete if calendar , dictionary or mail application itself and recreate it by terminal commands , ridiculous .

It's not ridiculous. It's one possible repair procedure for a corrupted Trash directory. In example, each user has a private, hidden Trash folder:

http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/trash.html#Anchor-About-47857

Dec 27, 2017 9:48 AM

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Dec 27, 2017 10:12 AM in response to ishrugged In response to ishrugged

The link you posted is from the internet , any one can find terminal commands or links in the google , Mac are not compatible with the risky terminal commands it may or may not work its better to erase the HD and reinstall the OS .

Dec 27, 2017 10:12 AM

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Dec 27, 2017 11:04 AM in response to ishrugged In response to ishrugged

No, I am not trying to delete the Trash Can. Files do not go to the Trash Can when deleted. I have had several serious problems with High Sierra and decided it was worth the 10 hours to roll it back. Thanks for your help.

Dec 27, 2017 11:04 AM

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Dec 27, 2017 5:35 PM in response to kennethfromsmyrna In response to kennethfromsmyrna

No, I am not trying to delete the Trash Can.

If Repairing permissions did not fix the problem, deleting the .Trash folder will be the next thing to try.

Please try to not get sucked into the tygb black hole of mendacity.

Dec 27, 2017 5:35 PM

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Dec 27, 2017 5:46 PM in response to Barney-15E In response to Barney-15E

You wrote - . Your post seems to indicate that posts on the internet should not be trusted. Hmm, that seems to indicate you should not be trusted.

Please don't post the impractical links , unless verified on the Mac your answers generally are hit and trial methods that can only give confusions .

Dec 27, 2017 5:46 PM

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