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Question: Alternative to DiskWarrior 5.0 for macOS High Sierra?

Hi Guys,


As disk utility first aid can't solve an issue on a MBP I'm working on, can anyone suggest a "Safe" alternative to DiskWarrior 5.0 as it does not work... I have looked into it and found out that for macOS High Sierra, soon they will release a new recovery maker...


But in the meantime does anyone knows a way around it or another safe and performant DiskWarrior like App?


Thanks a bunch!

MacBook Pro (13-inch Mid 2012), OS10.13.3 Beta / SSD-i7-2.9GHz-16GB

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Dec 23, 2017 1:04 PM in response to xmetienne In response to xmetienne

Yikes, best to steer clear of such things, especially TechTool Pro.


Mac tends to look after itself, what is the problem you are experiencing.

Sometimes just downloading the Combo updater and installing it can help, as it resets some system files and caches.

https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1944?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US


You could try Onyx it is free, some people have noticed an improvement to how High Sierra performs by running the Automation task. https://www.titanium-software.fr/en/onyx.html

It is probably the more benign of the aforementioned apps.

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Dec 23, 2017 1:04 PM in response to xmetienne In response to xmetienne

Alsoft had intended a v5.1 update to DiskWarrior to make it fully compatible with High Sierra and APFS, but being in the epicenter of hurricane Harvey caused unplanned delays. The version 5 product should still work on non-APFS drives (it won't recognize APFS drives). Here is more High Sierra related info on DW 5.0. I would advise that you contact Alsoft after 12/27 when they are back from Christmas break, and inquire about when v5.1 and APFS support will be available.


I have used DW for years without issue, and will update to v5.1 when it is released. That said, I seldom use it anymore, other than to rebuild a Disk catalog if it is beyond a certain fragmentation value.

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Dec 23, 2017 11:39 AM in response to xmetienne In response to xmetienne

There are three applications to rebuild Mac directory, as far as I know:


DiskWarrior

https://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior


TechTool Pro

TechTool Pro 9.6


Drive Genius

https://www.prosofteng.com/drive-genius-mac-protection-software


DiskWarrior is considered the best, but only TechTool Pro is currently compatible with High Sierra APFS.

Dec 23, 2017 11:39 AM

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Dec 23, 2017 1:04 PM in response to xmetienne In response to xmetienne

Yikes, best to steer clear of such things, especially TechTool Pro.


Mac tends to look after itself, what is the problem you are experiencing.

Sometimes just downloading the Combo updater and installing it can help, as it resets some system files and caches.

https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1944?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US


You could try Onyx it is free, some people have noticed an improvement to how High Sierra performs by running the Automation task. https://www.titanium-software.fr/en/onyx.html

It is probably the more benign of the aforementioned apps.

Dec 23, 2017 1:04 PM

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Dec 23, 2017 12:33 PM in response to Eau Rouge In response to Eau Rouge

Eau Rouge,


You know what?!?!? Thanks for the advice, you're so right... I was actually worried about other applications...


The only one I trust with proven track records is DiskWarrior and not the others... I will then keep on optimizing the os manually until their sh_t is sorted... I won't even try Techtool, I might have a look at onyx, but won't try my luck if not feeling comfortable...


This is not the first time I am reading your posts and you're always spot on... keep on with it 😎

Dec 23, 2017 12:33 PM

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Dec 23, 2017 1:04 PM in response to xmetienne In response to xmetienne

Alsoft had intended a v5.1 update to DiskWarrior to make it fully compatible with High Sierra and APFS, but being in the epicenter of hurricane Harvey caused unplanned delays. The version 5 product should still work on non-APFS drives (it won't recognize APFS drives). Here is more High Sierra related info on DW 5.0. I would advise that you contact Alsoft after 12/27 when they are back from Christmas break, and inquire about when v5.1 and APFS support will be available.


I have used DW for years without issue, and will update to v5.1 when it is released. That said, I seldom use it anymore, other than to rebuild a Disk catalog if it is beyond a certain fragmentation value.

Dec 23, 2017 1:04 PM

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Dec 23, 2017 1:11 PM in response to VikingOSX In response to VikingOSX

Hi Viking,


I already have the 5.1 but the issue is the Disk Warrior Recovery Maker... I have just found out that version 1.2 will be resolving the APFS issue...


Let's hope for the best and that they'll deliver soon...


We really need it with macOS High Sierra...


Thanks...

Dec 23, 2017 1:11 PM

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Dec 23, 2017 1:28 PM in response to VikingOSX In response to VikingOSX

Viking, nope my mistake... DiskWarrior 5.0 was delivered with DiskWarrior Recovery Maker 1 and in September last year they have released DiskWarrior Recovery Maker 1.1. update - As you've said they're now working on 5.1 as well as DiskWarrior Recovery Maker 1.2... My bad 😕

Dec 23, 2017 1:28 PM

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Dec 23, 2017 1:35 PM in response to dialabrain In response to dialabrain

@Dialabrain... I've messed up big time (many times) and never made it to rebuild a directory or fix a drive with the first aid from disk utility... I have tried many other solutions, such as TechTool... One day I saw a Genius at an Apple Store using it, made so research and discovered that it makes miracle... It saved my dumb *** more than once... maybe check it out... https://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/ Please note that I am not working for them and do not gain anything from them talking about it here, beside saving me a lot of headaches... Maybe another advanced level user might confirm what I am saying


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Dec 23, 2017 1:43 PM in response to xmetienne In response to xmetienne

I've messed up big time (many times) and never made it to rebuild a directory or fix a drive with the first aid from disk utility...

What do you do to mess up the disk such that it needs to be repaired?


As with dialabrain, I've never needed to repair anything in 30+ years, with Disk Utility or with something else.

If I get a drive problem, I reformat it and restore from my backup. If the drive fails again, it goes in the trash. Why would you trust your data on a drive that has inherent problems?


The only ones that have failed on me were Seagate "consumer" backup drives, and two bare drives that had known manufacturing flaws. Guess what brand disk I don't buy anymore.

I've also had a few flakey external enclosures. I bought replacements and no problems with the drives themselves.

Dec 23, 2017 1:43 PM

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Dec 23, 2017 1:45 PM in response to xmetienne In response to xmetienne

I'm familiar with the program and its brethren. There's nothing I'm aware of it can do that can't be done without it. It just makes things a bit easier. I do have Onyx installed and have for many years. The only thing I've ever used it for is to toggle the visibility of files. I can never remember the Terminal command. 😁

Dec 23, 2017 1:45 PM

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Dec 23, 2017 1:57 PM in response to Barney-15E In response to Barney-15E

What did I do? mess it up with BootCamp... this is why now I have boot camp installed on a separate drive and not a partition of my macOS drive anymore...


You've mentioned the magic words... Backup and Seagate... I rarely have recent backups and I have now to torture myself to have Time Machine running on a regular basis...


And last but not least, you just made me realized that the drive which gave me the most headache was a Seagate, since I've moved to SSD and having bootcamp installed on a separate drive (touch wood) I have avoided running into such issues...


Hey guys! @Dialabrain and @Barney-15E you guys seems to forget a very important point! You guys have a knowledge way above mine and many other users, and if something goes wrong you would know exactly what to do, whilst many of us will start panicking and would rely on a ready made solution or easy way around, such as DiskWarrior, Onyx, SuperDupper...

Dec 23, 2017 1:57 PM

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Dec 23, 2017 2:13 PM in response to xmetienne In response to xmetienne

Hey guys! @Dialabrain and @Barney-15E you guys seems to forget a very important point! You guys have a knowledge way above mine and many other users, and if something goes wrong you would know exactly what to do, whilst many of us will start panicking and would rely on a ready made solution or easy way around, such as DiskWarrior, Onyx, SuperDupper...

The only thing I know about disks when they "go wrong" is to get rid of them. I don't spend more than the time needed to erase and reinstall. That'w what I would do if I BootCamped it to death.

I have now to torture myself to have Time Machine running on a regular basis...

I never notice it is running.

Dec 23, 2017 2:13 PM

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