Choppy imported AVCHD footage - FCPx 10.4

Help! I don't know if anyone's replicated this but it's a showstopper bug if there's not some simple workaround.


I am seeing slight but noticeable choppy playback on AVCHD footage imported through 10.4. The choppiness is NOT baked into the file - if I test the imported footage into Premiere or play through Finder, it plays back very smoothly. The choppiness appears in the browser, the timeline, and exports.


I've set the view to best performance, trashed renders and prefs, removed effects, even reinstalled FCPx altogether, and nothing seems to be correcting the playback issue. If I drop the footage into Motion, the problem is there as well. Any footage I imported before 10.4 is fine. Footage that's not AVCHD plays back fine, including some imported Mavic Pro 4k footage. This has been my workflow for 6 plus years with the exact same footage and I don't know what I'm missing. Any thoughts?


On a late 2014 Retina 5k iMac (32 GB) and M295X video card (4 Gb). Camera is a Panasonic AF-100.

Posted on Dec 22, 2017 6:50 AM

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Feb 26, 2018 11:11 AM in response to DanniSuzanni

If you click on the third button the display will show complete information for the file. The summary shows the frame rate as 119.880. Frame rates for video have to absolutely exact down to thousandths of a cycle per second.


In analog video the timing of NTSC video had to be exact for each of 525 lines in each frame every 29.97th of a second. So two-tenths of a frame discrepancy in one second is quite a bit. Generally this means each frame isn’t this rate but that the frame rates are slightly variable throughout the video.

Mar 19, 2018 7:13 AM in response to rjpimprov

I have been one of the first ones realizing this issue and reporting it to Apple and to this community with Canon XA10 camera and having it checked. As said, it is not Canon, it’s Apple! I strongly believe the bug is on the FCPX 10.4., not on HS. I have managed to replicate the issue ALSO with Sierra AFTER upgrading FCPX to 10.4. Strangely though, the issue (choppiness) is not only in FCP but also in QT and iMovie. Before FCP 10.4. I had no problems whatsoever with none of the above mentioned programmes.


I really look forward to Apple’s fix!

Mar 21, 2018 1:45 PM in response to ivann1

I've used FCPx since the very first version, and honestly, haven't had an issue with any release until 10.4. Which is entirely different than my frustrating ongoing issues with Premiere.


Incidentally, an acquaintance of mine spent several sessions with Apple engineers in the past week going over AVCHD issues (specifically, problems with the Panasonic AF-100 that we both have). The engineers were able to independently replicate the problem, though they don't have a date for a solution yet. They acknowledged they've gotten similar feedback from other users involving AVCHD, so they definitely know there's a serious issue. Fingers crossed that it's resolved soon.

Jan 16, 2018 5:01 PM in response to Ballinrollin

I've had issues with the C300 w/ Canon XF codec since the update. Posting on the support boards isn't going to reach Apple, you have to call support directly. I would encourage you do so.


I was told Apple no longer supports the C300, since only the Mark ii model is listed on their camera support page -


Cameras supported by Final Cut Pro X - Apple Support


I see the AF100P is listed but not the AF100, so while it may seem obvious to you that shouldn't be an issue prepare to get that response.


I was also told to post feedback here so that the dev team actually gets it -


Feedback - Final Cut Pro - Apple

Feb 13, 2018 9:46 AM in response to DimitriL1

I'm having this same issue! I'm using Canon XA10e, which is one of the supported cameras. The problem is not the camera but FCPx 10.4 which for some reason doesn't support AVCHD. I actually sent the camera to Canon and they run a number of different tests without being able to replicate the error (on PC). I have contacted Apple's senior advisor who forwarded the ticket to California to engineers. It's been now for more than two weeks and no reply yet from Apple. I believe they are working on this and I do hope it's going to be fixed in the following version.

Mar 19, 2018 6:46 AM in response to nordheide

Mostly likely because the handling of AVCHD was changed in AV Foundation and that's effecting the output from Canon AVCHD cameras more while it doesn't affect the media from other AVCHD cameras. It's not a change in the codec because that seems to be working across the OS and it's written in hardware on newer computer so that would be difficult to change. It's only some avc1 structures that seem to be effected and some in different ways. Some Canoin cameras seem to produce one effect and others different ones.

Mar 19, 2018 12:19 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

@Tom


Understood. But in this case it would no change anything.

(And on my macs i can see it in the timeline). It is in quicktime too.


only when transcoding via kyno to prores before importing

there are no problems.


it is a software problem since HS and the update to fcpx 10.4


i sent the information to apple month ago.

They have to do there homework.


thank you for your help.

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