Why cant bluetooth and wifi be turned off from the control center?!

Apple has added an additional feature, the ability to disconnect from a network without turning off Bluetooth/WiFi.

Use Bluetooth and Wi-Fi in Control Center with iOS 11 - Apple Support

If you want to turn WiFi or BT off, go to Settings>WiFi or Settings>BT. Neither will come back on until you turn them back on. Or, you can just tell Siri, "Turn off WiFi".

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Maybe they will change it, if you never tell them directly they may not see your post here.

Your first request is a new feature that never existed but the other two points are how it always worked, I'm sorry that you are just getting excuses, how quickly people forget how Control Center worked since iOS 7.

elppA_ksA wrote:

Im not asking for a duplicate settings menu, i just want apple to return the way it was before, the way it’s always been. There was no problem with turnig bluetooth/wifi on/off in older ios versions, so why would they change it!

The Control Center hasn't always been there. So, it hasn't always been that way.

And, the reason they changed it was to add the very useful option to disconnect from a network without having to turn WiFi/BT off entirely. There is generally no reason to turn either service off. Leaving WiFi on improves the accuracy of location services. BT is used for things like AirDrop that require it to be on but not necessarily paired. And, despite what you may have heard, neither is a big factor in using up your battery.

The WiFi network where I work is fine for checking email or looking something up. But, really, it doesn't work well for things like streaming music and updating or downloading apps. Before the change in the Control Center, I had two choices. I could turn WiFi off completely, possibly forgetting to turn it back on when I got home. Or, I could "forget" the network, meaning the next time I wanted to use the work WiFi, I'd have to log back into it. Before the change in the Control Center, I didn't have the option just to disconnect. Now, I do.

elppA_ksA wrote:

That makes sense, but my only problem is battery usage, not sure about that yet

TLDR: I gained around 6 or 7 days per charge without Wi-Fi active

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It's actually trivial to do battery tests. I did it myself, it just takes time, patience and a willingness to apply some basic scientific principles. I did it because I was tired of the lack of critical thinking posted on the internet, including this forum.

I used two iOS devices…

• Factory reset before testing
• SIMs were installed to activate but removed before the test, cellular data was off
• No Apple ID was setup
• Bluetooth off
• Sound muted
• No third party apps installed
• No apps running
• Charged fully via Apple USB charger, rebooted at start of test
• Screen set to maximum brightness, auto brightness disabled & both had same minimum display timeout
• Devices were not used beyond checking the battery level periodically
• Low power mode was not used
• Wi-Fi was not connected to any network - the device was only doing whatever it does when looking around for Wi-Fi
• Location services were active

I recorded battery percentage levels throughout the process.

Each device had a Wi-Fi on & a Wi-Fi off test.

NOTE: battery percentage figures can be unreliable, which is why the devices were used until they powered off.

Wi-Fi enabled

Device 1 10.2 days

Device 2 10.3 days

Wi-Fi disabled

Device 1 16.4 days

Device 2 17.6 days

I suspect that being connected to a Wi-Fi network causes more drain but didn't have the will to do that test too. I did passively watch the Wi-Fi traffic after completing the test, it substantially increases when connected to a network, hardly surprising.

I urge others to do their own tests before they repeat the same 'it makes no difference' mantra, simply thinking about physics should cause you to pause for thought (and seek out some actual data).

The laws of physics make it abundantly clear - transmitting radio takes energy, Apple are incredibly good at minimising battery use but the laws of physics have not been defeated.

As an aside: The 'LE' in Bluetooth LE stands for Low Energy, not No Energy.

P.S.

These are not some miraculous 15 day iPhones, both devices would sustain around 1 day of battery life under normal use, (checking mail, texting, browsing, audio playback). They had even shorter life when moving around using cellular, Wi-Fi, GPS etc.

They are old 3GS's running iOS 6.1.6 because that is all I had around, so if you have a newer device please post your results before you shoot down mine.

Sure 'things change' over time but last time I checked the laws of physics hadn't, if you have a newer device that proves battery is not affected by Wi-Fi please post results or send it to me for testing 😝

I would post the full data but I really don't feel like facing ridicule from the fans here. Sometimes I'm really depressed by the Apple mob mentality that is allowed and encouraged here. Take this post down moderators for being off topic if you want. I'm just trying to present some honest evidence not 'assumed facts'.

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Philly_Phan wrote:

The Control Center was never intended to be a duplicate Settings menu.

I'm not sure I've heard anyone state it just that way. Obvious. Brilliant.

The Control Center was never intended to be a duplicate Settings menu.

Drew Reece wrote:

Your first request is a new feature that never existed but the other two points are how it always worked, I'm sorry that you are just getting excuses, how quickly people forget how Control Center worked since iOS 7.

I'm certainly not giving "excuses". I explained that things changed. Once again. Things were different before the Control Center. Now, they're different again. Technology will keep changing.

elppA_ksA wrote:

I wouldnt want to open settings to turn off bluetooth or wifi and i neither want to ask siri, what if I was in a position where I couldnt speak out loud. I think it would the easiest to toggle them off/on from the control center. Thanks IdrisSeabright for replying!

In that case consider changing your iPhone to another phone, one that does the things it does the way you want it to.

Yes, it's awful upgrade. Cause here in Japan we have many "wi-fi" which asks us login or register on browser first. Therefore even I turned off wi-fi from control center, it automatically finds another wi-fi which doesn't work on apps and it makes errors on apps. Please please fix it as before. Using Siri is just silly.

for those who say its not difficult to go to settings and turn off wifi, I think they haven't thought through

In a day one could easily turn on and off wifi more than 25 times, it get complicated. it was so simple using control center.

Now simplicity is turned into some illusion and debate with users that its simple to go to settings and turn off

now watch users vs non users

one group agrees that's where the future is and change is good, only coz they use apple watch

what about the non users

Leaving the conflict open and only one part is resolved. This is one big design flaw from those guys who think its futuristic and simple to leave wifi on...

technology is used to solve conflict, a solution where it destroy the conflict with a change that unites users

Right now the guys who made this decision only focused on one set of audience and hoping the rest will soon join.

Unresolved issue will be there, waiting and the attitude of solving only half the problem will also be there affecting all the future product designs and dividing the fan base.

Please fix it, users have so many ideas to find an alternative solution. Forcing us to go to settings and turn off wifi 25 plus times is crazy to even say its simple.

cj

cjtopper wrote:

In a day one could easily turn on and off wifi more than 25 times, it get complicated. it was so simple using control center.

Why on earth would I turn WiFi on and off 25 times in a day? I doubt I've turned if off that many times in the last year.

Even allowing that turning WiFi on and off that much made any sense, it's still not "complicated" to go to Settings and turn it off.

The point you seem to be ignoring is that a feature that didn't exist and is very useful is the ability to disconnect from a WiFi network without turning WiFi off. You want to talk complicated? If I wanted to do that before iOS 11, I had to go to Settings>WiFi, tap on the little tiny "i" next to the name of the WiFi network in question (often without my reading glasses near to hand) then tap "Forget this Network". The next time I wanted to connect to the network, I'd have to log in again, which can be particularly annoying with a captive portal network. That is complicated.

graemeearly wrote:

there’s a great reason to turn off wifi or bluetooth — save power by turning off radios when you don’t need them. this isn’t complicated.

And that too is completely wrong. The Bluetooth and Wifi radios in your phone use very little power. We're talking miliwatts. If you turned off your cellular radio, now that would save power, but then you wouldn't get or make phone calls. In fact, if you turned off your cellular radio and just left your Bluetooth and Wifi radios enabled, your phone's battery would likely last a month of so. So, your point is false.

Since there is absolutely no valid reason to ever turn off WiFi, that convenience is is a fraud. For those that foolishly want to turn off WiFi, Settings > WiFi is no big deal.

Thats because you did not 'turn it off' at all. Your mistake. If you learn how to actually 'turn it off' the problem will end but if you keep leaving it on, it wont.

IdrisSeabright wrote:

Philly_Phan wrote:

The Control Center was never intended to be a duplicate Settings menu.

I'm not sure I've heard anyone state it just that way. Obvious. Brilliant.

Oh, pshaw!