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Connecting a Macbook Pro to a CRT Sony Trinitron

Dear All


I want to connect a Sony Trinitron TV to a MacBook Pro to use the TV's screen as a visual monitor (no sound / broadcast / cable tv etc required). I can get the sound to work - no visual... :-(


Any help appreciated. Driving me nuts -


Completely open to the idea that I ignore my experiments / connection hardware, I throw these existing cables, converter etc in the bin, you tell me what to do / buy & I start afresh -


My failed attempts result in questions:

- Do I need a Mac Thunderbolt connector, rather than a Mini Display connector for a Mac?

- Is an 11 pin SCART connection enough, or do i need the full 21 pin version?


Pics / diagram below -


Sony Trinitron TV - KD-32DX150U - has loads of connecting options, see pic - I'm trying either the RCA or SCART ports, but the male SCART plug in I have used in only 11 pin. Sound works via RCA (no vision).


MacBook Pro - 15" mid 2012 OS X Yosemite 10.10.2, see pic for ports - I'm trying the Thunderbolt, but connecting to the converter doesn't register on the Mac - which might be because the cable is an Amazon basics Mini Display plug, not a Mac Thunderbolt product - ??


Converter: I have what I believe is a converter - a 'Real HD Media Center' & on this there are:

    • female HDMI
    • female 3.5 AV
    • female 3.5 YPrPb
    • female SD/ MMC
    • female USB
  • (converter to TV cable) a'Real HD Media Center' connector cable - a 3.5 'jack' male / to either RCA yellow/red/white male, or via an adaptor, an 11 pin male SCART
  • (macBook to Converter) a separate HDMI (male) / mini display (male) connector (Amazon basics - THIS IS NOT a MAC product / Thunderbolt marked connector)


I have connected the mac to the converter using the Amazon HDMI / mini display connector - but the connection does not show on the Mac, is this because the cable is an Amazon basics Mini Display plug, not a Mac Thunderbolt product - ??


I have connected the TV to the converter - either

i.) YPrPb at the converter to either SCART or RCA on the TV - but only 11 pin SCART???

ii.) Av at the converter to either SCART or RCA on the TV - but only 11 pin SCART???


Sound works on the tv direct from the Mac (i.e. no converter) via 3.5mm jack to RCA / or 11 pin SCART.


Any advices really welcomed.


best regards


Chris


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MacBook Pro, OS X Yosemite (10.10.2), Please see notes / pics / diag

Posted on Jan 11, 2018 7:47 AM

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Jan 11, 2018 10:05 AM in response to soapandrocket

the Mac could be too high and the TV too low, they could cross somewhere in between but the frequency or refresh is out of sync, it might just be they are or that one of the converter attachments might throw it off. From what I can tell that the TV was simply not designed to work with a computer, just video players and cameras which work very differently.

Jan 11, 2018 10:08 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Grant - thanks for your reply


MacBook Pro - 15" mid 2012 OS X Yosemite 10.10.2, Processor 2.6Ghz Intel Core i7


Thunderbolt (not Mini Display) & 2 USBs


I'm trying the Thunderbolt, but the second issue to solve is getting the Mac to 'see' the connection, which could be either the cable being Mini Display, not actual Mac Thunderbolt, or because I'm using Yosemite & haven't deciphered how to find the connected device manually.


Any ideas appreciated -


Please bear in mind that I don't really understand any of this & I am googling / copying / pasting to write the questions - in other words, treat me as a complete idiot & that will be about the right level -


best regards, Chris

Jan 11, 2018 10:17 AM in response to soapandrocket

The minimum resolution you are likely to get out of your Mac is 1024 x 640. The Trinitron does not work in pixels and requires 625 (UK) or 525 (USA) lines. The only way you are going to get this to work is to get a standards converter which the Mac can talk to, and which will output a raster of the required number of lines: and I very much doubt that any such animal exists - the only requirement in most cases is the other way round, to convert SD analogue to something a Mac an accept.


Even if such a converter exists it would very likely cost more than a basic computer monitor.

Jan 11, 2018 10:30 AM in response to soapandrocket

you appear to have several different inputs on that TV.


I recommend you ignore Composite video and SCART chips entirely. It is a cute trick to get everything mashed together correctly for "Composite Video" (which is Red, Green, Blue, and Syncs all mashed together), but the display will immediately take them apart again anyway. The quality of the mashed-together signal will not be very good.


You appear to have the inputs required for an RGB input, which is indistinguishable from VGA input when properly wired.


Those wonky connectors on the back are:

21 pin euro connector, (CENELEC standard) including audio/video input, RGB input, TV audio/video output.

Your Mac can make an RGB output by using a ThunderBolt to VGA adapter. Then you need to make or buy a cable that re-wires the VGA: {Red, Green Blue, H-Sync and V-sync} signals onto the 21-pin CENELEC connector.


Mini DisplayPort is a subset of all the signal provided at the computer-end for thunderBolt-2 (ThunderBolt-3 gets simpler in some ways and more complex in others).


NB>> I see that several Readers have expressed doubt that you can get the Mac resolutions low enough to work on that TV set. I have no information that contradicts what they are saying.

Connecting a Macbook Pro to a CRT Sony Trinitron

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