High Sierra guts Graphics performance

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Hello Apple et alRunning High Sierra 10.13.3 on a 2016 Mbp 15" 2.7GHz i7 16GB w/Intel 530 + Radeon Pro 460Before High Sierra, I finally had a Mac that could Max out graphics on all my favorite games. Since then, its a dog. FPS is halved or worse, and I have to cut resolution almost in half.I&#x27;m pretty sure its the APFS...but gang I&#x27;ve been waiting and waiting and waiting for an update to address this...3 major updates already and nothing that fixes my graphics processing from running like my a dog.Can you at least tell me if you are working on it?- thanks

Allan Eckert · Accepted Answer

I suggest you use the program created by Etresoft, a frequent contributor.  It will provide a snapshot of your system which we can analyze to possibly determine the cause of your problem. Please use copy and paste as screen shots can be hard to read. On the screen with Options, please open Options and check the bottom 2 boxes before running. Click “Share Report” button in the toolbar, select “Copy to Clipboard” and then paste into a reply. This will show what is running on your computer. No personal information is shown.Etrecheck – System Information

John Galt · Answer

Apple does not reply here. There have been plenty of reports of poor graphics performance on certain Mac models, such as Slow Graphics Performance MacOS High Sierra. Like all similar Discussions there is too much disinformation in it to be useful. Its presence on this site just serves as a placeholder for others to pile on. The recent update was intended to address poor graphics performance, so if you are still having trouble despite having updated macOS you should Contact Support. EtreCheck won&#x27;t hurt. Perhaps something else is going on. Whatever it is, it&#x27;s not APFS. A file system is unrelated to graphics performance.

aaronjon · Answer

EtreCheck version: 3.4.6 (460)Report generated 2018-01-24 09:25:35Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.comRuntime: 2:11Performance: ExcellentClick the [Lookup] links for more information from Apple Support Communities.Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.Problem: Other problemDescription:Poor Graphics performance, Games very slow to load and run.Hardware Information: ⓘ    MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2016)     [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty &amp; Service]    MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro13,3    1 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7 (i7-6820HQ) CPU: 4-core    16 GB RAM Not upgradeable        BANK 0/DIMM0            8 GB LPDDR3 2133 MHz ok        BANK 1/DIMM0            8 GB LPDDR3 2133 MHz ok    Handoff/Airdrop2: supported    Wireless:  en0: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac    Battery: Health &#x3D; Normal - Cycle count &#x3D; 5    iCloud Quota: 1.25 GB availableVideo Information: ⓘ    Intel HD Graphics 530 - VRAM: 1536 MB        Color LCD 3360 x 2100    AMD Radeon Pro 460 - VRAM: 4 GBDisk Information: ⓘ    APPLE SSD SM0512L disk0: (500.28 GB) (Solid State - TRIM: Yes)        (disk0s1) &lt;not mounted&gt;  [EFI]: 315 MB        (disk0s2) &lt;not mounted&gt;  [APFS Container]: 499.96 GBUSB Information: ⓘ     USB30Bus         Apple Inc. iBridge      USB31Bus      USB31Bus Thunderbolt Information: ⓘ    Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus_1    Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus_0Virtual disks: ⓘ    Macintosh HD (disk1s1 - APFS) /  [Startup]: 499.96 GB (272.84 GB free)        Encrypted: Yes (Unlocked)        Physical disk: disk0s2 499.96 GB (272.84 GB free)    (disk1s2) &lt;not mounted&gt;  [Preboot]: 499.96 GB        Physical disk: disk0s2 499.96 GB     (disk1s3) &lt;not mounted&gt;  [Recovery]: 499.96 GB        Physical disk: disk0s2 499.96 GB     (disk1s4) /private/var/vm  [VM]: 499.96 GB        Physical disk: disk0s2 499.96 GB System Software: ⓘ    macOS High Sierra  10.13.3 (17D47) - Time since boot: about 9 hoursGatekeeper: ⓘ    Mac App Store and identified developersKernel Extensions: ⓘ        /Library/Extensions    [loaded]    com.logitech.manager.kernel.driver (6.72.1 - SDK 10.12) [Lookup]System Launch Agents: ⓘ    [not loaded]    7 Apple tasks    [loaded]    163 Apple tasks    [running]    120 Apple tasksSystem Launch Daemons: ⓘ    [not loaded]    38 Apple tasks    [loaded]    171 Apple tasks    [running]    121 Apple tasksLaunch Agents: ⓘ    [not loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-07-12) [Lookup]    [failed]    com.adobe.ARMDCHelper.cc24aef4a1b90ed56a725c38014c95072f92651fb65e1bf9c8e43c37a 23d420d.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-01-19) [Lookup]    [running]    com.logitech.manager.daemon.plist (Logitech Inc. - installed 2017-12-19) [Lookup]    [loaded]    com.microsoft.update.agent.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2017-12-17) [Lookup]    [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist (? 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edjonesy · Answer

You&#x27;re not the only person to find this.Lots of other users have posted here in the forum about the same issue.I wiped my laptop and reinstalled Sierra to go back to a machine that was usable again.I&#x27;m not sure that its the APFS file system, I&#x27;m no expert though, I think it is apples implementation of Metal2 to boost graphics performance, but it seems to destroy performance on some GPUs.Mine is an early 2013 15" MacBook Pro with 16gb ram and 256gb ssd. I have both intel HD4000 onboard graphics and a discreet Nvidia GT650m.Everything works fine under Sierra, but frame rates drop to 1 and 2 under High Sierra.I&#x27;m hoping to hear that someone has installed todays update 10.13.3 and it fixes everything...