How do you know when the right time is, to create a new Apple ID on a new device?

I'm not a very important person, So I don't have anything significant to save as far as phone data goes. I have lost a lot. And also lost a lot of precious tangible things in life and that definitely goes for phones too. Whether they are stolen or lost? The fact remains that I have lost so many pictures, videos, saved content and even a ton of my writing. Stories from my life, poems, diary entries, letters, and even songs I've written. I didn't always know about backing up to iCloud once I first started purchasing apple phones. I learned the hard way. So I've had a few different iPhones since the last time one of my iPhone 5c's was stolen in 2015, pictures and all, and I had not discovered "Find my iPhone" yet (not that I ever have luck with that one. They just sell my phone for parts, I guess), so it was once again, sayonara to my memories. Since then I've been smart about backing up data. However with a different and final iPhone 5c I owned from 2016-2017, I had so much data that my iCloud storage finally became full. I was constantly erasing pics whenever the notification came up. But then, erasing pics of myself and dumb memes wasn't enough. And I began erasing mostly all of my 82 horoscope apps (not kidding). Storage just wouldn't stop getting full, and finally it wasn't allowing me to update my iOS anymore. I contacted Apple tons of times because I purchased extra storage more than once, was successfully charged, and my iCloud was not reflecting this. I have had the worse luck with Apple chat, and though I contacted many different tech support agents. My issue was never resolved. So I went on with just being ok with the fact that I would be able to back everything up to my computer, whenever I was ready. Even asking for help with that, was a nightmare. So I figured I would just google it when the time was right. Little did I know my phone screen would get destroyed the one day I didn't have a case on it. I went to get the screen replaced with an outside vendor. It was very cheap, as the girl knows me. It turns out my phone still wouldn't turn on even with the brand new screen. To this day, I have no idea what happened. So I got the iPhone 7 in 2017 September. I went into Verizon and asked them if they could transfer my files from the iPhone 5C to the iPhone 7 which had a CRAP TON of storage on the phone alone, which would be fine until I could figure out what the **** was going on with my iPhone storage. Verizon said definitely not, because the phone needed to be on, which it could have been, but we didn't know because there was no light or image or anything on brand new screen. I still have the phone somewhere, with the pictures and what not that was left on that. I wanted whatever I had on my iCloud to be loaded back up onto my iPhone 7. So naturally, I went and signed in with my original Apple ID. Little? Did I know, not even 2 months later, in this God forsaken town, my iPhone 7 would stolen from the same exact store from which my iPhone 5C was stolen, 2 years prior. Lost what didn't end up uploading onto a drop box. My point in mentioning all of this is to let you guys know how many times I've lost pictures and all that stuff that I mentioned before, and also so that you might understand that I've lost a lot of memories, also, in part, due to my carelessness sometimes. Nevertheless, I've come to expect that I need to constantly be synching to a bigger cloud if I decide to keep this cursed Apple ID, because this whole iCloud situation is a freaking disaster, and I can't kept being charged once for the storage, expecting to be able to allow my current little iPhone 4s to be able to breathe, and to download the necessary updates when needed so that I can potentially receive proper help next time there is an issue - only to never receive the extra space, physically (so to speak), only in the settings does it show the free space. So, I've been googling when is the right time to just say "eff it!", and get all the chaos away from you and unnecessary stressers, and just start brand new? My iPhone 4s and I will be patiently awaiting your response. Thank you, kindly for actually hearing me, listening. That's quite a feat, espesh cause I have word vomit when I am blessed with someone with an ear to listen to me. Thank yoooooou!!!!

iPhone 4S, No community 4 creating new ID/new

Posted on Feb 4, 2018 9:24 PM

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Feb 8, 2018 1:46 AM in response to SoHollywood

So, my Apple ID I currently use, will no longer exist? So my cloud under that ID will be erased? Or I will just have my new device, with a new ID/password to remember, moving forward? And the old one will still be accessible?

Accounts can't be deleted, it will continue to exist and anything downloaded by it will continue to be tied to it. If you no longer want to use the existing account, nor any of its content, don't use it anywhere and you won't need to remember its id or password

Feb 8, 2018 5:11 AM in response to SoHollywood

So, my Apple ID I currently use, will no longer exist? So my cloud under that ID will be erased? Or I will just have my new device, with a new ID/password to remember, moving forward? And the old one will still be accessible?

If your Apple ID can be deleted by Apple, then yes, all aspects of it, including the iCloud elements, will also be deleted.


Not accessible. Delete means forever.


So, that being more summarized, without all the extra crap I stated in original question, maybe this might give you a clearer insight in regards to my dilemma?

Not really.


You have issues with upgrading your iCloud storage. I don't see how that impacts your ability to update your phone. Or impact iTunes.


Apple hasn't been able to either resolve or explain the issue. You think starting over is a solution.


I'll stick with my first thought. A new Apple ID does not resolve any of the above and may cost you more money to replace content you will lose access to.

Feb 8, 2018 10:37 PM in response to SoHollywood

WHY on earth would Apple delete my account??? What would give them any reason to do so????

You would likely have to give them a good reason before they would do so (and assuming that they would agree to do so anyway).

And the fact that you don't know that your phone needs space, and in order to do that, you must have space in your cloud to back up too, otherwise your phone does not have space enough to do the upgrade, is beyond me.

You don't need more space in the cloud in order to create space on your phone. You choose what to back up to the cloud, and you can delete content from a device to make room on it without first putting it into the cloud. You can also delete a device's iCloud backup to free up space in the cloud

Feb 8, 2018 12:41 AM in response to LACAllen

Thank you for explaining this. You are very much appeciated.


However, real quick; let's say I just want to start over in life and I decide even my Apple ID with all the toxic memories that may be associated with it, etc., can go with along as well. In this case, will talking to Apple tech support be much more difficult? Will this confuse them? Thus causing my already potentially difficult conversation to end up being très difficile?


How about the purchases? Will this just end up being confusing for me to look back on, as far as your knowledge of and experience with the platform goes?

Feb 8, 2018 1:09 AM in response to LACAllen

And you know what, I've got another question. So, my Apple ID I currently use, will no longer exist? So my cloud under that ID will be erased? Or I will just have my new device, with a new ID/password to remember, moving forward? And the old one will still be accessible?


The reason I felt I needed a new one is because there is far too much trouble with the one now. I couldn't even back up any data from the latter half of 2017. Apple wasn't helping in terms of WHY my purchase for more storage was reflected in my settings, but not "physically", in the cloud. Thus not allowing me to update my iOS, which only led to limitations in other areas in relation to my iTunes being updated, and content being backed up. It was a big, stupid cycle that was never resolved. My cloud now is stuffed to the gills, with no resolution on how to expand.


So, that being more summarized, without all the extra crap I stated in original question, maybe this might give you a clearer insight in regards to my dilemma?


I still appreciate your answer, and do appreciate any more feedback you might be able to give.

Feb 8, 2018 5:04 AM in response to SoHollywood

let's say I just want to start over in life and I decide even my Apple ID with all the toxic memories that may be associated with it, etc., can go with along as well. In this case, will talking to Apple tech support be much more difficult? Will this confuse them?

I have no idea how your decision to "start over" will affect tech support's ability to help you.


How about the purchases? Will this just end up being confusing for me to look back on, as far as your knowledge of and experience with the platform goes?

Again, I have no idea how this may affect you. If you try to access content you have no access to, that may cause you confusion and/or frustration.

Feb 8, 2018 11:11 AM in response to LACAllen

You're super condescending.


And the fact that you don't know that your phone needs space, and in order to do that, you must have space in your cloud to back up too, otherwise your phone does not have space enough to do the upgrade, is beyond me.


WHY on earth would Apple delete my account??? What would give them any reason to do so????



And yes, if I start over, I wouldn't have to deal with the iCloud needing anymore space. The iPhone 7 was stolen around Christmas, so those pics/videos are long gone which weren't able to be backed up anyway. So, if I keep that iCloud and open up this phone with that same apple ID, then any thing that I add onto this phone, will run into the exact same dang issue. I won't be able to back up now even more data. Because I'm sure I will end up having the same issue when I attempt to purchase more storage, as it's happened on two phones, already. Now, if I choose to add my cloud crap to this phone, then I'm gonna end up having a bunch of stuff I don't want or need on THIS particular phone. With considerable amount of less space on iPhone and STILL no way to back up any new data to cloud.


Again, I ask you, WHY would Apple just randomly delete my account?????

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