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turning 32 bit addressing off

I am working on my old Performa 575, 7.6.1 OS, Motorola 68040 @ 6MZ. I installed an Apple IIe card (Apple product) and after clicking on the Apple IIe start-up icon, I got the message,"To use Apple IIe card must turn 32 bit addressing off in Memory control panel." When I go to the Memory control panel, the only options are: desk cache, virtual memory, and ram disk. What am I doing wrong?
Tony

Power PC G3 Mac OS 9.2.x Blue & white (Yosemite)

Performa 575 with 7.6.1OS Other OS Motorola 68040 @6MZ

Posted on Jan 24, 2007 11:09 PM

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Posted on Jan 24, 2007 11:29 PM

32-bit addressing is always on in Mac OS 7.6 and newer. If you start up a computer with 32-bit addressing turned off into Mac OS 7.6 or above, it will turn it on and immediately restart.

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Jan 25, 2007 11:26 AM in response to Niel

32-bit addressing is always on in Mac OS 7.6 and
newer. If you start up a computer with 32-bit
addressing turned off into Mac OS 7.6 or above, it
will turn it on and immediately restart.

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Thank you for responding. So are you saying that with this OS 7.6.1 on the Performa the Apple IIe card just won't work? I know I am being obtuse but don't want to believe my eyes.

Tony

Power PC G3 Mac OS 9.2.x Blue & white (Yosemite)

Jan 25, 2007 11:46 AM in response to Jan Hedlund

a Performa 575
is (at least as far as hardware is concerned) capable
of working with either 24 or 32 bit addressing. You
may want to try an earlier operating system, perhaps
the downloadable System 7.5.3
Jan


Thanks for the help.
When I was mucking about with Norton Util last night I saw the Performa 575 was 32 bit addressing. Since I am a cookbook "mechanic" could you spell it out for me? #1 is there no way to make that Apple IIE card work on my current system? My goal is to save some old Apple files that are on 5.25 disks before getting rid of the Performa. #2 do you think that the IIe card would have a good chance to work with the 7.5.3 OS?

Tony





Power PC G3 Mac OS 9.2.x Blue & white (Yosemite)

Jan 25, 2007 12:32 PM in response to Texas Mac Man

Virtual Memory requires 32-bit addressing to work.
Don't know if you have VM On or Off. If it's On, turn
VM Off & see what happens. It's a long shot.

 Cheers, Tom


Hi Tom,
I did try it with VM both ways in my random floundering attempts to solve the problem - no luck. When I picked up the IIe card years ago I did have an earlier OS on the Performa so I am starting to comprehend the error in my ways. Thanks for your time!
Tony

Power PC G3 Mac OS 9.2.x Blue & white (Yosemite)

Jan 25, 2007 1:24 PM in response to Tony Mack

Tony,

saw the Performa 575 was 32 bit addressing.


The aforementioned technical specifications page lists both 24- and 32-bit addressing. This, usually, means that (with the proper system software) you have a part of the Memory control panel with a choice between 24 and 32. Compare this to, for instance, the PowerBook 190cs, where only 32-bit addressing is mentioned (in this case the Memory control panel even under System 7.5.3 does not contain the segment where you can change the addressing mode).

do you think that the IIe card would have a good chance to work with the 7.5.3 OS?


I am not familiar with the card in question, but System 7.5.3 might at least offer the possibility to switch between 24 and 32.

If you want to test an earlier system, it is not absolutely necessary to remove the existing 7.6.1. You could download and copy the nineteen 7.5.3 files to the Performa 575 hard disk. Once there, use StuffIt Expander to decode the .bin files. Place the decoded (one .smi and eighteen .part) in a common folder. Now, use a separate boot floppy (e.g. the Network Access Disk 7.5 here) to start the computer. Change the name of the existing (7.6.1) System Folder on the hard disk (call it 7.6.1 System Folder), and move the System suitcase out of that system folder (place the suitcase in any other folder on the hard disk). Next, double-click on the first 7.5.3 file (.smi); this will mount the total disk image. You will find an installer inside the mounted image. Install System 7.5.3. Restart.

Whenever you wish to return to System 7.6.1, rename the now active (7.5.3) System Folder (call it 7.5.3 System Folder), and move the (7.5.3) System suitcase out. Then, rename the 7.6.1 System Folder (call it System Folder), and move the (7.6.1) System suitcase into this System Folder.

Jan

Jan 25, 2007 2:24 PM in response to Jan Hedlund

OK Jan,
Thank you you the lengthy and patient explanation. I think I get it.
I saved the old OS from the Performa when I upgraded to 7.6.1 so I can skip the download. I will still follow the pattern you lay out re not erasing the current 7.6.1 OS or maybe I will try to start up the Performa with the older OS CD - see there is hope for me! I will mess about after a nice long walk and try again.
I will let you know if it works.
Tony

Power PC G3 Mac OS 9.2.x Blue & white (Yosemite)

Jan 25, 2007 3:24 PM in response to Tony Mack

Tony,

I sing the same song over and over again but people forget the external SCSI port. If you have an external hard drive with a back up system folder, turn off the computer, plug in the drive, turn on the computer, go to control panels, pick the external hard drive as the boot drive and restart.

It is so easy to boot from external hard drives that every one with an old Mac should have a zip drive or other external drive that lets them boot from older systems for repair/diagnostic/restore purposes.

An older system on a Bootable CD or Zip Disk or HDD will solve all your problems.

Ji˜m

Jan 25, 2007 7:55 PM in response to Appaloosa mac man

Tony,

I sing the same song over and over again but people
forget the external SCSI port. If you have an
external hard drive with a back up system folder,
turn off the computer, plug in the drive, turn on the
computer, go to control panels, pick the external
hard drive as the boot drive and restart.

It is so easy to boot from external hard drives that
every one with an old Mac should have a zip drive or
other external drive that lets them boot from older
systems for repair/diagnostic/restore purposes.

An older system on a Bootable CD or Zip Disk or HDD
will solve all your problems.

Ji˜m


Hi Jim,
Thanks for the help. I will take it step by step and try Jan's suggestion first and then look to your suggestion next. I do agree with you in general terms that an external drive is good to have. I have a Zip built into my G3 as well as 3.5 disk drive hooked up to it. I could not use Disk Warrior without the Zip. More tomorrow.
Tony




Power PC G3 Mac OS 9.2.x Blue & white (Yosemite)

Jan 26, 2007 12:07 AM in response to Tony Mack

Tony,

If that built in Zip drive on the G3 is a SCSI drive and not an IDE interface, you can find an old CD-ROM drive and cable at a thrift store for $5 and swap out the guts to give you an external case for the internal Zip.

You can install a backup copy of 7.5.3 on a zip disk. You can have different systems on different zip disks. Even OS 8.1 will fit on a zip if you leave off the file conversion software. Good luck.

Ji˜m

Jan 26, 2007 10:34 PM in response to Appaloosa mac man

You have some good ideas, Jim. I see the need to have that extra external drive for future computers. For now I am just looking for a quick fix to rescue my old AppleWorks files on 5.25 floppy disks. I followed Jan's lead for the most part and now am running Apple IIe on the Performa. Thank you for your time and help with my problem. I hope you get partial credit for the soln.
Tony




Power PC G3 Mac OS 9.2.x Blue & white (Yosemite)

Jan 26, 2007 10:55 PM in response to Tony Mack

OK Jan,

Your ideas worked! I ended up initializing the Performa HD -the 7.6.1OS had some funky driver files I discovered- and reloaded the 7.1P6 OS that I found. Then I loaded the Apple files and when I was directed to change the 32 bit addessing, the Memory control panel had a 24 or 32 switch. I switched to 24 and the Performa became an Apple IIe.

I was even able to partition the HD before reloading the 7.1 so I can store the AppleWorks Prodos files on the hard drive. So the Apple IIe card is up and running and I can easily switch back and forth from either environment.

Thanks for your patience and the thorough explanation.
Tony


Power PC G3 Mac OS 9.2.x Blue & white (Yosemite)

turning 32 bit addressing off

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