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Bug using a Wacom Intous Pen Tablet with iWork?

This is an old issue still waiting to be solved. After the question was raised, I have installed all OS from 10.11.1 till 10.13.3 and all revisions of the Wacom driver. I still need two hands to select a piece of text. In the former answers people were asked to find out whether it is a Mac, an OS or a Wacom issue. Well, most apllications I use do not display that bug. Shall I wait until Apple has used all names of California locations for the OS?

Mac Pro, macOS High Sierra (10.13.2), 16 GB

Posted on Feb 26, 2018 10:50 AM

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Feb 27, 2018 5:13 AM in response to VikingOSX

Thank you for the advice. It is highly appreciated. I would love to use an Apple mouse. In fact, most features of the Magic Mouse were my idea, and I am proud of it. Without my work, also the trackpad would probably not exist because computer companies once tought, it was good for nothing. I really own both, but cannot use them properly because around 25 years ago using an Apple mouse crippled my right arm. Since then, I have to use a tablet with my left hand.


The issue is not only related to Pages. Also using Keynote or Numbers is affected. I am using about 100 and more applications. Currently, no others are affected, including Apple products like Mail, FCP, iTunes, Finder … The only real issue ever with a program was with Photoshop. That was an issue between Wacom and Adobe. Other Adobe products were not affected.


This means, the issue has been created by software that is part of iWork. It did not exist in earlier times. It does not occur in any other application running under OSX, not even with Windows software running under Parallels. Who is to kill the bug? Wacom tablets are not just another HW, they are the main input device for the core professional users of Apple products. Neither a mouse nor a trackpad are real equivalents to a tablet. User uploaded file

Feb 27, 2018 7:12 AM in response to Yarramalong

I can appreciate your predicament with Pages, but I see no effective, vendor resolution, other than your own adaptation:

  1. Another word processing application where the Wacom tablet works properly.
  2. A separate (left-handed) input device that works properly with your version of Pages.

    Or, a newer Wacom hardware/driver solution that works with Pages — if said hardware exists

Feb 26, 2018 12:34 PM in response to Yarramalong

You are asking for a technical answer to a problem that only the Pages or Wacom product teams can address. As fellow users, we have no access too, nor can we speak/speculate for either product team. Apple's product teams neither read nor participate in these Google archived, user-to-user support communities.


Use an Apple mouse, or Apple trackpad. Using the same products repetitively expecting a different result is just a gnawing source of frustration. Life is too short. It is not Apple's responsibility to make Wacom products compatible with Pages. Wacom will not have access to Pages source code, or document encoding.


You can ask Wacom support if their devices/drivers are tested against Apple's Pages product. Since it is a word processor, and not a high-end, Adobe product that would benefit from a Wacom solution, they will likely say no.

Feb 27, 2018 9:21 PM in response to Yarramalong

Hi Yarramalong,


You wrote: "Wacom tablets are not just another HW, they are the main input device for the core professional users of Apple products."


While I, like Viking, appreciate your predicament, I would be surprised to learn that "the core professional users of Apple products" depend on the obviously consumer level products in the iWork set of applications.


(Keynote is a possible exception to that statement, depending how it has fared since the last version I looked at.)


Regards,

Barry

Mar 4, 2018 7:58 AM in response to Barry

"the core professional users of Apple products" depend on the obviously consumer level products in the iWork set of applications."


Sorry, Barry. They do not (completely) depend on all consumer level products. I can do without Pages. For good text stuff, I use InDesign, and as long as Adobe supported Macs, I used Framemaker. For normal stuff, I use MS Word. But for presentations, I like Keynote. Not just that. With keynote, one can develop video clips for which you would need lots of plug-ins for FCP. And Numbers is much easier to use for people who are not experts in Excel. And Numbers charts look much better. Numbers is not a full equivalent for Excel for big businesses. However, how many people work in big businesses?


When Adobe Premiere and Final Cut Pro were expensive, even in professional areas, iMovie was used for creating smaller clips. Thus, one would pay only one copy of the Adobe software and most people would work with iMovie.


Whatever the issue is, it has been created by a release of iWork. I assume, deleting it would need not much more than a pair of clicks and one or two lines of code.

Mar 13, 2018 5:47 AM in response to Yarramalong

This issue developed two years ago. Like you I developed RSI (twelve years ago) while using an Apple Mouse and since then I introduced Wacom Intuos tablets at my Architecture office on eight CAD workstations. I banned any extended use of the mouse in my office to avoid liability for any potential future health claims. The Wacom tablets are also indispensable for extended CAD/drawing use (an Apple trackpad is not useable for that purpose) and we naturally also use them for Pages, Numbers, Keynote etc. This bug is a problem for our workflow and has caused reduced productivity. It is also infuriating on a day to day basis as you switch between applications and get different behaviours. We have reverted to Word/Excel as a workaround, but are stuck with a lot of document templates in Pages and Numbers. I took it up with Wacom a year ago and persisted in chasing them for several months. I got the following response in June 2017:


emeasupport@wacom.com

Thank you for your answer.

The issue that you are experiencing with the text selection in iWorks was reported to our Senior Technical Support Specialist. Currently, our dev team is working with Apple team for resolution. The next driver update might come out with the solution.

Hoping for your understanding with this issue.

Kind regards,

Tamara
Customer Support Team
WACOM
+44 (0)207 744 08 31


Since then there has been no response and the updates have not fixed it - I do not even know if Wacom are still working on it - it was reported they said at one point it was because Apple changed their system and the pen registers two clicks instead of one when selecting text. It does not sound technically insuperable, but I think they lack the will to resolve it. I suggest contacting Wacom at emeasupport@wacom.com if you have not already done so and I will start chasing them again as well.


Charles

Mar 8, 2018 7:20 AM in response to Yarramalong

Oh by the way I have a (slightly) sophisticated workaround for you. If you hold down "Shift" and select the selection sticks, so for the iWorks Apps I have programmed the button on the stylus, which is normally set for right-click to "Shift". I can then hold down the button and select text. There is a technique to it (Raise the stylus away from the tablet before releasing the button), it is still rubbish to have to do this, but it is a slight improvement in my view on holding "shift" on the keyboard to select.

Mar 13, 2018 6:01 AM in response to Feathercombe

Thanks for the news. It is amazing how long it takes to solve a simple question. Ages ago, it was between OS 7.6 and 8.0, I had managed to get a unique feature of the MACOS to disappear without anyone even noticing it. Until that time, you were forced to push the button on the mouse and to hold it until selecting an item from the menu. An amazing feature to develop RSI. This time, it is a tiny little nonsense causing much trouble. No other app responds like iWork programs, and they did not do it before for ages. iWork is not a give away stuff to sell hardware. And Pages, altough not an equivalent for MS Word, is much better in some respect.

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