Strange holiday in US Holidays Calendar

newburymac wrote:

Apple needs to make this editable.

What part of the repeated explanation; “Subscribed calendars conform to a worldwide standard. That standard specifies that subscribed calendars are not editable“ don’t you understand?

First of all, let's be hospitable on this forum! In the past I downloaded a holiday calendar to my Mac, which was editable. You checked those holidays you wanted and unchecked those that you didn't. Now that Apple has added a slew of holidays not relevant to everyone, it would be good for a calendar to be editable. I sent this suggestion to Apple.

A world-wide format can always be changed unless you think today's programmers aren't as competent as programmers in the past. There are some of us that don't want our calendars filled with the equivalent of email spam. I've come up with my own immediate solution, which I wrote about earlier; I'm not waiting for Apple to make changes but I want to give Apple feedback.

You did not download a subscription calendar, as we have already discussed. Subscribed calendars are synced to the provider’s server, not downloaded. The reason a subscribed calendar cannot be edited is it is “owned” by the calendar provider, and can be updated by the provider at any time. Any such update will replace the copy you have with the updated calendar, wiping out any edits. You can choose to not use a subscription calendar, but if you choose to use it you get all of it.

There are other creative ways to handle this. For example, create separate US HolidayCalendars - one with US Federal Holidays, one with the holidays used in the past, and one that is augmented with Apple's new holidays. Then we can download the calendars useful to us.

newburymac wrote:

There are other creative ways to handle this. For example, create separate US HolidayCalendars - one with US Federal Holidays, one with the holidays used in the past, and one that is augmented with Apple's new holidays. Then we can download the calendars useful to us.

All of that already exists. first, however, these are not downloaded, they are subscribed to. There’s a big difference. Subscribed calendars are owned and updated by whoever creates them. But there are hundreds of calendars you can subscribe to. Enough for every possible preference or prejudice. Apple originally had one with only US holidays and days of interest. But this infuriated some users, because THEIR choice of specific religious holidays was not on it. So on Feb 22 Apple updated the subscription calendar to include THOSE USER’S choice of events plus some of interest to different users. This infuriated the original complainants even more, because THEY believed they were more important than anyone else and only THEY should get what they wanted, not anyone else. Acknowledging that there were other Americans who might have rights appears to be anathema to these privileged individuals.

Patti wrote:

You are not the only one with this strange holiday and it is not just on March 2, 2018. It is always in March but different days and started in 2017.

Did you read the thread at all before posting? Yes, everyone who subscribes to the Apple U.S. Holiday calendar has it. If you go back and read through this thread, you can even find information on the holiday itself.

When I originally went to the thread, it only showed the original posting as that is what I was searching for. I read more posts after mine was posted. I don't really care whether it is Hindu, Jewish or anything else. It is listed as a U.S. Holiday and it is not. I agree that Apple needs to change how they add holidays.

Patti wrote:

You are not the only one with this strange holiday and it is not just on March 2, 2018. It is always in March but different days and started in 2017.

You might consider reading the thread that you posted to. Then you would know that there is nothing strange about the Hindu holiday of Holi and why its there.

Easter is not a US holiday either, which is why Apple left it off the US Holidays subscription calendar. But that created quite an uproar, so Apple added holidays for the 4 most widely practiced religions in the US. But note that this was not Apple's idea, the idea of including religious holidays was forced on them by public pressure.

The other thing to note, which is discussed in the thread, is that there is no such thing as an official US holiday, so on that basis the US Holidays calendar shouldn't exist at all.

iphone_user987654321 wrote:

It seems like you are just here to cause trouble and not provide any useful responses for anyone.

There seems to be some confusion. Someone stating opinions that are different than your opinions is not "causing trouble". It's actually called a "civil discussion between adults". I realize that's a very rare thing in the public sphere these days so. I understand if the idea of politely disagreeing with someone is a difficult concept for people who's notion of public discourse is twitter. However, it is possible. And, with practice, can be educational and, sometimes, enjoyable.

Patti wrote:

When I originally went to the thread, it only showed the original posting as that is what I was searching for.

It might be a good idea to learn how to use the forums. The thread started back in February and the information on Holi has been posted in this thread since then.

It is listed as a U.S. Holiday and it is not.

According to whom?

Patti wrote:

It is listed as a U.S. Holiday and it is not.

Please define "US Holiday". Without a definition your statement is meaningless. In my opinion every holiday on Apple's US Holidays calendar belongs there, each for one of several different reasons. Your opinion obviously is different from mine but without know what your definition is there is no basis for discussion.

Lawrence Finch wrote:

Patti wrote:

It is listed as a U.S. Holiday and it is not.

Please define "US Holiday".

I'm still lobbying for the definition to be "U.S. holidays: any holiday traditionally celebrated with chocolate or which includes delicious food as an integral part of the celebration; holidays commemorating the service of individuals or groups to the country and its people; holidays marking astronomical events (e.g. solstice and equinox). Things that are not holidays: those events the primary purpose of which is (or has become) to sell people more stuff (unless it falls under the "delicious food" category)."

Not true. I am distressed. Not because it is a Hindu holiday but because it is on the US holiday calendar. I liked the US holiday calendar until it was filled with every holiday one MIGHT celebrate. Now I have to add all my federal holidays separately so my calendar is not filled with everyone else’s holidays! Apple needs to allow you to remove or add holidays or have separate calendars.

Rosemary S. wrote:

Not true. I am distressed. Not because it is a Hindu holiday but because it is on the US holiday calendar. I liked the US holiday calendar until it was filled with every holiday one MIGHT celebrate. Now I have to add all my federal holidays separately so my calendar is not filled with everyone else’s holidays! Apple needs to allow you to remove or add holidays or have separate calendars.

1. As explained over and over, it is not possible to edit a subscribed calendar. You either take it as is or you don't check it in Calendar settings, then find a different calendar to subscribe to that meets your needs. There are hundreds of them available, mostly free.

2. The ORIGINAL Apple US Holidays calendar contained only US holidays. But some very vocal people objected because Easter (a RELIGIOUS holiday, not a US holiday) was not on the calendar. So Apple decided that if religious holidays were to be included, it should have the religious holidays for the 4 most-practiced religions in the US: Christian, Jewish, Hindu and Muslim, so it updated the subscribed calendar on February 22 to include them.