when will apple allow us to power off iphone with a passcode from lockscreen. being able to turn it off while locked defeats find iphone and invites theives.

There are frequent posts to this site from people who have forgotten their passcode to enter their phone that they supposedly use every day. So, yes, people do forget a passcode they use. I agree that I can’t imagine how it happens, but it does.

There is even a help article from Apple for when you forgot your passcode. See here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204306

Search for this topic. It has been discussed many times.

Requiring a pass code to power off will not reduce thefts one iota.

Thieves don't need to power off your device once stolen. Remove the simple gets the same result. A Faraday bag too.

It's a bad idea.

One of the problems with requiring a passcode to turn off your phone is what happens when you forget that code, you cannot turn your phone off and your battery will die if you can’t charge your phone. Having a strong passcode or two factor authentication will prevent any thief from accessing your information if your phone is ever lost.

Before there was touch ID and Face ID people had to remember their code but after those features, many people forget the code they set up because they never use it. Therefore, it is not a good idea to use the passcode to turn off your device unless it is older and does not contain those security features. If you think that is ridiculous that is fine, you are entitled to think what you want.

Your speaking of a hypothetical ‘if someone forgot their passcode’.

This is both laughable and extremely uninformed. You clearly have never been in any tech support role. Users are capable of forgetting their passcode/password when they enter it the 2nd time to confirm a change.

Please tell me the last time you know someone who forgot their phone passcode?

1 minute ago somewhere in the world.

The way it’s currently set up find my iPhone serves no purpose.

The feature is not Retrieve My Phone. It's designed to find a misplaced phone, not guide you down the the docks to wrestle it back from a thief.

No technology in the world can prevent theft. Find My Phone in addition to it's partner Activation Lock reduces the value of a lost/stolen phone to zero. Thieves know this and iPhone theft is down as a result. Their market for a locked phone is now naive, gullible or greedy people.

Insurance is what gets you back the investment in your device.

I’m guessing they will never do this because retrieving your iPhone cuts into their bottom line when you don’t have to shell out $1k for another phone.

Name any other manufacturer of any other thing where you could not make this same lame argument.

Same as they don’t care about testing updates or batteries.

Right.

There is no defective battery issue. Batteries wear out. Apple's battery issues right now are not about defective batteries or a defective update.

What they did in iOS 10 re: older battery performance was intentional and in hindsight, poorly communicated.

The batteries now being replaced at a discount were not defective or under tested. They were old and depleted.

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