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Question: High Sierra system takes 182GB? ***?

High Sierra is ridiculous. It takes 182GB of my 251GB laptop! What is it doing that? This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen in my life.

MacBook Pro with Retina display, macOS High Sierra (10.13.4)

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May 26, 2018 12:51 AM in response to GingerKoko In response to GingerKoko

Depending on where you look for information the results may vary.


Via 'About this Mac' in the  menu Finder the panel that makes an

appearance then, offers several items; the Storage would show all

the bits and pieces used by all system parts including partitions.


Or Disk Utility can show you a different aspect of how storage is used.


Some information from Activity Monitor can reflect another viewpoint.

And IF you can see the hard drive icon on the desktop, use Get Info

to see how that lets you see another perspective.


Each vintage or series of operating system has differences; and these

also affect how you can view them. And too if you had Etrecheck utility

that can be run and generate a report, that also shows you more if you

have a paid version. The report may also be posted in your discussion.


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May 26, 2018 11:05 AM in response to GingerKoko In response to GingerKoko

Not being able to see what's on your Mac, I can't say what's going on, but it certainly isn't right. I have High Sierra on two drives. One with numerous large production apps, and the other pretty much an install of HS and nothing else.


High Sierra production drive - 58.5 GB

High Sierra only - 17.3 GB


And on the HS only drive, that's everything. System, Library, Applications, etc.


You may have a runaway process that is causing Console to go crazy saving mountains of useless data.

May 26, 2018 11:05 AM

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May 26, 2018 11:29 AM in response to GingerKoko In response to GingerKoko

Is this a recent upgrade to High Sierra or have you been running it for awhile?


Did you just notice this, or ongoing?


I have seen anywhere from 12 to 350+ GB in Mail logs if you have checked Log Connection Activity.

Mail>Window>Connection Doctor>Log Connection Activity

If you click Show Logs in will take you straight to the folder in Finder. Verify log file size.


~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Logs/Mail

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May 26, 2018 11:29 AM in response to GingerKoko In response to GingerKoko

When you select About this Mac and then select the Storage tab you will see something like this:


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What does your laptop show?


It may be you have multiple high memory tabs in browsers, or gaming overheads, or even a fault.

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May 26, 2018 11:28 AM in response to nugoth In response to nugoth

nugoth, that is precisely where I go to see that the System is so huge and it never decreases even at fresh startup.


leroyhuges, this is recent upgrade. Before High Sierra, system space was tiny.


kurt lang, this is the system usage even after a fresh reboot with minimal processes loaded at startup.


k shaffer, researching shows nothing as to how that storage is used.


I DID read during an obscure Google search that it has been suspected that Time Machine can cause this kind of ridiculous bloat. I run Time Machine which backs up to an external My Passport. I read that some people suspect that High Sierra 'also stores' onto the originating drive and if true, it is ridiculous ... the whole purpose of an external drive is to store elsewhere!


I may have to revert to El Capitan if I can't resolve this. I keep running out of HD space. I think it is a bug in High Sierra. I so appreciate all of your inputs but I am at a loss to FIRMLY IDENTIFY and FIX the problem. High Sierra 10.13.4. I never thought I'd say this but Apple has really let me down on this one.

May 26, 2018 11:28 AM

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May 26, 2018 11:33 AM in response to leroydouglas In response to leroydouglas

leroy, I just noticed your indication about Log Connection Activity. I shall check that now. One thing may be strange is that sometimes when viewing Mail, it says it's downloading over 3,000 emails even when there is nothing to download. Still, why the problem only after updating to High Sierra? But I shall check now. Thank you!

May 26, 2018 11:33 AM

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May 26, 2018 11:48 AM in response to GingerKoko In response to GingerKoko

Shame on this forum for limiting my ability to thank someone!

That's just the way it's setup, and has been for quite some time. The person who started the topic can award one Solved, and two Helpful marks.


However, a somewhat recent addition is any post can be marked Helpful by any other users. When that particular post gets 5 or more Helpful clicks, it then also gets a Helpful star.

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May 26, 2018 11:51 AM in response to GingerKoko In response to GingerKoko

GingerKoko wrote:


I found the Log Connection Activity Logs and it shows 94GB used.


Well there is 94 GB you can retrieve. You would be safe to delete all those logs.


Disable log connection activity in the Connection Doctor

Don't forget to empty your trash, reboot if necessary to recover your HD/ SDD free space

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May 26, 2018 12:09 PM in response to nugoth In response to nugoth

nugoth, you are correct - all are less than 50MB except for imap.gmail.com which is 94GB. And can someone please verify it is safe to delete all those logs listed there? I'm nervous until I'm sure I'm not misunderstanding the direction.


When I tried to view that imap.gmmail log, I double-clicked it and my system froze completely. I had to restart. Gosh.

May 26, 2018 12:09 PM

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