Where is the ECG App?

That’s my life lately Exercising daily usually 2x/day getting my days periods and eventful things transposed. I typed the last response while waiting for a Church Celebration dinner. Guess when you or I am hungry minds drift.

Should I look for the Streaming Apple Newscast on the Apple Website???

Doug

Sadly nothing at todays event about the watch EKG function. Also was hoping for some info on the wireless charger that has disappeared altogether from Apple information. Two for two. Time to return this watch and move on.

Well, guess we could have a mass exodus of Series 4 watch turn-ins. But I'm a hardier persistent patient patient I think. That's medically speaking although I've used my persistence in other life endeavors. Option 3 could be to contact inquire with the Apple SW Developers like that is going to get results re: EKG SW release. I'll ping the FDA Cardio peoples and contacts I have just to see what they have up their sleeve or on their chest. Its amazing what knowledge and info access FDA and govt clearance sites have to give.

Standby for further info. Maybe.

Doug

The bit is, they promoted it, even though it was clear it would be later this year, is why even promote as heavy as they did if it was not going to be in at least the first update. Time is everything and since Apple likes to release a watch a year; by the time this app is released it will be time to upgrade. Some folks bought the four for that feature.

NOYB234 wrote:

. Time is everything and since Apple likes to release a watch a year; by the time this app is released it will be time to upgrade.

That doesn't mean you have to buy a new watch every year.

1. That’s what Apple said.

2. The year ends on Dec 31, which is 2 months away.

I suggest you continue monitoring your heart using the method used before you bought the watch, until the ECG app is finally released And you have tested it to your satisfaction against the “old way”.

garyfromolney wrote:

ecg app is going to be available sometime later this year? Year is coming to an end when?

I have afib so it is important to monitor my heart on daily basis

So how are you doing it now?

garyfromolney wrote:

ecg app is going to be available sometime later this year? Year is coming to an end when?

I have afib so it is important to monitor my heart on daily basis

I do too. So far I've had no problem monitoring my heart by taking my pulse. And during an afib episode it's pretty obvious that there's something going on, so the first thing I do is check my pulse. If you don't have a pulse oximeter it would be a good idea to get one. That's the thing that clips on your finger. And there are even ones that sync your pulse data to iPhone apps. And they are really cheap on Amazon.

It's going to be available when it is adequately tested and Apple can prove that to the FDA. So it isn't even all Apple's decision; there's an outside party (the US Government) who has to say it's OK. And you know how efficient the government is.

Agree agree Branta_uk,

It is what it is. Apple Watch series 4 is the latest and greatest Cadillac or Mercedes, or BMV or Porsche hitting the road.

Saying that The end of the year is near, nearer now -61 days to be exact. No I'm not trying to go back into AFIB waiting on EKG Apple developers to get it done, but get it right.

Yes, I monitor my HR with my FITBIT blaze and now Apple 4 S/S gold daily and esp exercising.

Yes, absolutely I can tell and feel and my mind goes a bit crazy when my HR goes to 180-200+ and bounces around faster than a ball of silly putty on steroids.

I'm optimistic, just had an update Tuesday eve on Watch 4. Simple and painless.

Trying to be a patient patient waiting patiently and off to exercising in 15min. A F I B free sure hope to stay in NSR.

Well, I just thought of this scenario. I've got an ICD/Pacemaker med device used to 'shock me' and or pace my heart.

I'm going on 7yrs6months and have 3-4 months of battery life left. My guess on the unlikely event or likely that I get a Shock (when my heart exceeds 180-220BPM my rhythm goes crazy) AFIB max I'll call it; the Voltage conducts through my Apple series 4 watch metal.

Does my watch go dead or inoperative?

I've started watching my HR much much more w/my new 10 days old Series 4 watch. That sounds redundant watching my watch.

Any ideas what a ICD shock would do to an Apple Watch??
Anybody?

Doug

Based on my limited understanding, the shock is delivered precisely to the heart. I don't believe it's like getting struck by lightning where the current travels through your body to ground. If it did, you would need to be warned to avoid touching anything metal or electronic. Do you currently wear a watch? If so, is it affected? If you happen to be touching someone when it occurs, do they feel anything? While it seems unlikely to me that your ICD/pacemaker would affect your watch, that's something you really should discuss with your cardiologist.

There is no definitive information about the safe environmental and wearing voltage levels for an Apple Watch, but I can do a little rational speculation. My watch has withstood many ”uncomfortable” electrostatic discharges as I get out of the car or walk across certain carpets, so it is clearly not unduly vulnerable to voltage, and I doubt your ICD gives you a jolt which would count as uncomfortable by the time it has passed from your heart to your wrist. Even so, the risk of damage to the watch would need an electrical path for current to flow through the watch (remember how birds can sit on power lines because they only touch one side of the circuit?) so that would need you to be touching the watch with your other hand (the ECG sensing touch on the Digital Crown at the critical moment) - BUT the ICD voltage is applied in the middle of your body, and both arms are equally distant so no significant voltage difference between left and right arms - no voltage applied to the watch.

Edit: The worst that you might see is some wacky heart rate or ECG traces from the ICD pulses, but that would only be an area fact of measurement while it was active.

Conclusion: Your ICD is unlikely to create damaging voltage levels around your watch. There’s another point... if it’s a choice between heart stability or a slight risk to the watch I know which choice I would make!

I understand IdrisSeabright, I'm sure my ICD that is also a pacemaker(HR paced to 70bpm) which is on an FDA recall notice for 2 yrs for early battery depletion recall, will only deliver to correct amount of joules(volts emf) directly to my RV ventricle lead which is outside my heart organ. So, I've only had 3 induced shocks, and they were given one while I'm asleep in the EP labs in hospital. Cardioversions they call it.

The point is would a 'heart shock' permeranate migrate to my Apple watch? I don't think so, but does Apple EKG/HR developers think about such things happening?

Yes, I've worn my Series 4 for a whopping 12 days now.

And next Tuesday I've got an AICD/Pacemaker interrogation 6 months ck up. Guess I'll find out by asking the EP RN device interrogator lady.

Sure wish the EKG app was approaching before Turkey day.

"Your ICD is unlikely to create damaging voltage levels around your watch. There’s another point... if it’s a choice between heart stability or a slight risk to the watch I know which choice I would make!"

Good answer Branta_uk. Like I mentioned in the previous post to IdrisSeabright I've only had 3 induced ICD shocks/cardioversions. Controlled environment, me lying on my back, on a hard EP lab operating room table with so many medical peoples watching me get shocked. Plus they don't let you wear a watch or jewelry or fitness devices in hospital OR's.

I'm thinking of the worst case scenario like 1) me treadmilling or jogging or on a wet outside surface or

2) mowing the lawn outside and grabbing the chain link metal fence.

3) Lifting weights bringing hands & wrists to my chest

Yes, there a many ways, methods, instances that could send a voltage into my pristine Apple S4 watch.

Unlikely yes, at least a good question to ask my ICD/pacemaker device tech next Tue 0:930.

Plus I should look at the EMF and EMI and Radiation testing that APPLE has done on the 'said super Watch series4'.

That the FDA would have them do to some extent.

I'll place my Vote in my ICD/pacemaker for Life Assurance first, a watch can be replaced, Doug not so easy.

depotdoug wrote:

The point is would a 'heart shock' permeranate migrate to my Apple watch? I don't think so, but does Apple EKG/HR developers think about such things happening?

Those people are not reading here so I suggest you start by using the Contact Support link at the top right of every page of these forums.