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Is v.4 of Photos (Mojave) different than v.3?

I haven’t heard of any changes — which is surprising since there is so much that could be improved. Have I missed something?

iMac Pro (2017), macOS High Sierra (10.13.6)

Posted on Sep 25, 2018 7:51 AM

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Sep 25, 2018 8:38 AM in response to David Strait

One difference, that is nice: In Photos 4.0 you can see the filenames below the thumbnails (as long as you do not add a title to the photo).

User uploaded file


The dark mode in Mojave makes it easier to browse the photos.


We can select albums to import to, when importing photos.


Most photo related changes are in the Finder. The Finder is now showing much more metadata for photo files, and the quick actions make it possible to work with photos directly in the Finder.


The Share menu has changed. It is no longer possible to share from Photos to Social Media (unless you install an extension). Share to Facebook or Flickr has gone.


Photos 4.0 does no longer support native Apple print projects. To create print products, you need the project extensions.

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Sep 25, 2018 8:38 AM in response to David Strait

One difference, that is nice: In Photos 4.0 you can see the filenames below the thumbnails (as long as you do not add a title to the photo).

User uploaded file


The dark mode in Mojave makes it easier to browse the photos.


We can select albums to import to, when importing photos.


Most photo related changes are in the Finder. The Finder is now showing much more metadata for photo files, and the quick actions make it possible to work with photos directly in the Finder.


The Share menu has changed. It is no longer possible to share from Photos to Social Media (unless you install an extension). Share to Facebook or Flickr has gone.


Photos 4.0 does no longer support native Apple print projects. To create print products, you need the project extensions.

Sep 25, 2018 8:37 AM in response to léonie

Ha! The filename listing *is* nice, but thanks to you, I already have all the filenames written to the Title field. You sent me an AppleScript that copies the filename to the Title field in Aperture. I had wanted this AppleScript so my exported images would display the filename in Photos! It’s ironic that you were the one to point out this upgrade to Photos since you already solved the problem (for my usage, anyway).


So… a couple minor upgrades and downgrades. Seems kind of lame… I don’t believe there has been a significant upgrade to Photos since High Sierra came out (I may be mistaken). Hope this doesn’t mean Apple is “done” with significant Photos development.


P.S. Still use that AppleScript routinely… Thanks again! Apparently Aperture is still alive on Mojave, so I will be using it for at least another year!

Sep 26, 2018 12:16 AM in response to Promiceus

What a lame shift since finder still has spacebar as preview and spacebar in photos did not get ANY functions

Quite a few users complained, because the the space bar does not start and stop a video. Now it does, even when viewing the animated preview as a thumbnail. I find this quite convenient, compared to previous version, where we had to hit the start/stop button.


You can try to assign a new keyboard shortcut (Application shortcut for Photos in System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts) to the command "Open Viewer" as described in this document: https://support.apple.com/kb/PH25377?locale=en_US&viewlocale=en_US

But I could assign any key combinaton, only the space bar cannot be assigned this way, at least when I tried.

Sep 26, 2018 8:04 AM in response to léonie

Thanks for the tip, even though I doubt Apple will give away replacement of Spacebar in specific program that easy. It's part of the UX after all.


Regarding video - yep, it does make some sense. However, as I said before, previous spacebar function was similar to Finder's Preview. I browse the files and by pressing spacebar I see them up-close. Same in Photos: I browse my photos-icons-previews and by pressing spacebar I see them up-close. Which behavior is primary and 'more Mac'? I don't think this has right answer.


And then we have: habit breaking added to change. Muscle memory is important factor. Typing in itself relies on that completely. Failings in muscle memory bring uncomfortable feeling and frustration when you numerously press button that is now wrong.


Previewing photos AND videos with spacebar happens more often then playing videos ONLY, because most people will have at least photos AND videos. Spacebar is closer to touchpad where you scroll and rest your hand. And spacebar is better if you're left-handed. Return is simply on the other side of keyboard or the whole laptop in case you're left handed.


And lastly, what might be a potential complaints amount on a keyboard that did not work like that before? As Steve Jobs noted about 'marketing research on mouse and GUI among people who do not know what GUI and mouse', it's safe to go further as 'will there be more complaints about keyboard doing new function than complaints about some key not doing anything'?


People are slaves to habit - Windows 8 and 'start button' clearly showed that people do not understand what button does, they just remember which button to press. That's normal. We do not think how to work or eat. It's good to think about higher concepts and do not let small ones get in your way, that's what progress is all about. Car driving regulations could be better and different if they where designed now from scratch. What we have is a result of a long and winding road of 'patching' rather than a whole design. Yet driving regulations progress only slowly and slightly...


Some things are just too small to be improved instead of others.


PS: analogy with video starting to play in quicktime or elsewhere is not full. You never just have a video on screen 'one spacebar press away' from playing. You have to open the file or preview it or open player (or media juke box like iTunes) and then select a file and so on. Finder parallel with preview is way closer in terms of user journey and percentage of usage cases.

Oct 18, 2018 12:17 PM in response to Promiceus

Uhhg. I completely agree. MacOS has conditioned me to slap the spacebar to view objects, and this was an obvious, intuitive and consistent way to open/close photos.


My quantity of photos outnumbers my quantity of videos 30:1, so this change has made the spacebar 30x less useful (not to mention that the spacebar could previously be used to open/close videos as well).


Changing this behavior (without providing an option to restore the previous behavior) is offensive. I will not update to Mojave on my primary machine until an option is available.

Is v.4 of Photos (Mojave) different than v.3?

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