macOS Mojave with server 5.7.1file sharing Group permissions problem :-(

Apple server?! Is a joke! Steve please help us from heaven😩

We must use windows server and o365 services for really works? 🤔

I loose so many partners...

Apple now is not Think Different... Apple don’t thinking....😔

Yep, I run a small business with only a few employees (for now) that services many businesses because the model is efficient. Part of that was using Apple hardware and server. I've lost a good deal of time and money developing alternative solutions.

It's not just business, it's also personal. A lot of trickle down effect here.

Saying Apple's focus is no longer on server because everyone is going to the cloud seems speculative to me. Just had a post deleted for that kind of speculation. Guess it's all in what you say.

Half of my client base could never use the "cloud" for anything but administrative work and some basic media sharing. That's not speculation, but fact. I've been running Apple servers since AppleShare IP. The Apple base was always media and content creators in my region. Big files.

Freenas doesn't seem to have a problem using Unix as a file server OS. Provides a good OS alternative to MacOS and cheaper hardware. The current version of Freenas will run as far back as a 2009 Mac mini. That's a current OS on that old mini.

Hi

I had exactly the same problem. And it was solved by typing the command lines described above. Thanks to all of you on this forum. However I have another issue: everytime I update a shared file, a directory is created. So I let you imagine how many directories I have after a full week...

For example I use everyday an excel file which is called Freelance.xlsx and when I edit it then save it, a folder called Freelance.xlsx.sb-9063f676-Gk1NBI is created (the letters after .xlsx change everytime). Inside this folder I can find a small file without extension. Name is E1A23200, weight is 59ko. (Name change everytime also). It's like a temporary folder but it never disappear.

Any idea about this problem? Does someone know how to avoid the folder creation or at least hide automatically those new folders?

Thanks again for you help guys,

This is an Office issue. I had some success with fiddling with the Autosave options and switching from AFP to SMB (even though I would prefer to use AFP for a number of reasons).

Here's a rabbit hole for you to go down:

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/ie/en-US/50d3d7fb-f9c1-49b3-86e3-f9ede62b33d0/mac-2016-word-when-saving-creates-a-folder-example-nameoffolderdocxsb98c2cb88xxxxxx?forum=Office2016forMac

Ryan,

Can you give a little more context? What version of Mojave are you using— 10.14.? Are you sharing from an SSD using SMB?

Have you experienced the problem of users not being able to delete folders?

Carl

Running macOS 10.14.4 (no Server app) on an 11,3 MBP with no OD configured, just sharing accounts. Using the internal SSD (APFS) for the OS and to host FileMaker Pro databases. An external Thunderbolt HFS+ (Journaled) RAID5 consisting of rotational 7200RPM drives hosts the file shares and backup destinations. Another external rotational drive for the security software, also hosted on the server.

This setup is working well enough that I will now start upgrading clients from 10.11/10.12. Mac Pro towers make great servers on the cheap because adding drives is easy, but now, the 6Gbps interface is showing its age. (4) drives, striped, (24 Gpbs max). So the laptop and external RAID is a great setup! Built-in screen and keyboard/trackpad, built-in battery backup/power conditioner, whatever add-on you want and with an external RAID formatted as HFS+ Journaled, you still get lots of sharing power. I'd stay away from Thunderbolt 2 RAIDs and go with USB-3 if possible. Have had issues with Thunderbolt 2 and Macs sleeping when they aren't supposed to (use Amphetamine.app to keep awake), causing drive drop offs. Drives RAID5 crazy, RAID4 is more tolerant in that situation but USB-3 is best.

Connectivity is both AFP and SMB. For clients I tend to lock in AFP because Adobe apps are problematic with SMB and Adobe doesn't officially support working off file shares (unless you are using something like Facilis) so with no support from Adobe I stick with AFP and have no issues. The server has (2) NICs, each with their own VLAN. No issues.

No issues deleting folders/modifying files.

Here's a sample share point set up in the, Sharing, System Preference. Then configured using TinkerTool System.

Permissions for the Admin group.

Permissions for the Staff group.

With all of this, folders within the share can still have custom permissions. Such as having a project folder with staff access but that folder having a nested folder that only allows access to a specific user. Just like the macOS Sierra Server days! 😎

Hi Kinney

I have a similar issue but on Mojave after I migrated from Snow Leopard using Migration Assistant. I just migrated system and Network settings and one standard user. I created the administrative user from scratch using my Apple ID. This is just on an iMac and not Mac OS Server but it really sounds the same.

The shared folders migrated but I found I could no longer edit sharing permissions nor remove shared folders in System Preferences > Sharing.

I contacted Apple Care but they seemed clueless and suggested I wipe the machine and start again from scratch which I am reluctant to do as it is a brand new computer which I spent a lot of time setting up. They say:

"When you used the migration assistant to migrate the use, you have

bought the old Open Directory to the new computer and it seems to have

issues.

Removing / replacing the Open Directory is not recommended

Erasing and reinstalling macOS clean, setting up all users manually and using Time

Machine application (definitely not any assistants) to recover just the

user data (nothing else) is recommended"

Do you think the Directory Utility steps you listed will help without creating issues elsewhere?

The only thing I need to do is reset Sharing to nothing so I can create the shared folders from scratch.

Thanks

Thanks for getting back.

The support for iMac's is worse - they basically cannot suggest anything other than a wipe and reinstall from scratch and this is after 3 weeks of wasted time.

I am just going to return the computer.

So much for the progress of updates which screw up the most basic of functions!

Hi just adding my voice to this ongoing debacle. I have a small production company and we share all of our files from one server. With Mojave we can no longer save files that have been opened remotely, we have to save them locally and then copy them over manually after the file has been closed (i.e. Photoshop PSD, Numbers, etc). I had this problem in the past and the fix was updating my ACLs, but now it seems I don't have the option to do that.

I do most of my rendering/editing on a custom built PC now... thinking now that I am more comfortable with Windows 10 I may just build a Windows server. Honestly never thought I'd be more into Microsoft than Apple :(

Is your share; having the AFP issue, on an AFSP volume?

connecting to afp://10.0.1.3 get's me a "...connection to server 10.0.1.3 failed..".

Tried with 10.0.1.3:548, same story.

I could not enable AFP on a AFPS volume. Irony? During troubleshooting, I formatted an external SSD as HFS+ which allowed me to enable AFP on that volume.

I have been discussing it with AppleCare Enterprise Support over the last few weeks, They are aware, No fix offered as yet.