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Locking Background Audio in iMovie 10.1

I have been trying to piece together a video in iMovie but am having problems with the audio arrangement.


Is there any way I can lock audio on the background track? As I understand things, the audio on the background track should remain unaffected by the video timeline, however I found this not to be the case.


Whenever I delete or edit video clips, it affects the duration of clips on the background audio track, so I have to keep re-adjusting the audio clips as I move video around and make changes, which is very frustrating. The audio clips seem to have a mind of their own.


'Trim background music' is turned off. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong or I have I misunderstood the behaviour of the background audio track?

iMovie 10, OS X Yosemite (10.10.5)

Posted on Nov 15, 2018 1:44 AM

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Nov 17, 2018 3:15 AM in response to Rich839

Hi Rich,


The 'switch off' audio clip is not attached to the video clip, there is no handle and it's already in the lowest audio track at the bottom.


Here are a couple of before and after screenshots of the timeline which will hopefully clarify. Video obscured for privacy. The black section along the top is just a mask/overlay I added to create an old film projector appearance, basically I rounded corner rectangle over the video.


Now, If I start deleting video clips from the timeline, I end up with my audio track completely re-arranged and shortened as you can see. It doesn't stay locked in the original arrangement or duration.


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Nov 17, 2018 8:44 AM in response to Community User

O.K. I see what you are saying. I am having a little trouble replicating your findings on my set up, that is iMovie 10.1.10 and Mojave. I see by your profile and post info that you are using some old versions -- iMovie 10.1 and Yosemite. You might try updating those to the current versions that I have, your computer specs allowing, and see if that makes any difference.


I set up a project of 4min53secs duration consisting of nine vids of 30.5 secs duration each, and three audio clips of which two were 1.9min in duration and the third was 54.2 seconds.


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When I deleted the video clips, the project duration remained the same but the audio clips squeezed together and looked like this:


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When I expanded the timeline a bit, using the slider next to the settings button above the time line on the right, the audio clips displayed at their same durations they had before I deleted them, and the project remained the same duration.


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I take it that when you do the above exercise you get a different result?


While playing with this I did notice that sometimes the durations of the audio clips did change while deleting and adding video clips. I had to drag the audio clips back to their original length. I didn't have time to stay with it long enough to determine the reason for the duration changes. It might be just an anomaly of the app.


As I mentioned in my earlier post, the problem may be solved by adding the audio clips after you have added and edited your video clips. That is the recommended way.


I don't know if any of the above helps, but thought I'd pass along my findings.


-- Rich

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Nov 15, 2018 12:20 PM in response to Rich839

Hi Rich,


I understand what you're saying and yes the total duration of the audio does remain the same, however the arrangement of audio clips does alter.


The original audio source is a single mp3 file of a film projector switching on, then running for a short period, before finally switching off. So I have imported and taken short clips of the switch on and switch off, which are placed at the beginning and end of the background audio track. Then the middle section is made from a clip of the projector running, duplicated a number of times to make up the total duration required.


Once I have added the video clips to the timeline and everything is in place, if i then delete a video clip off the end of the timeline (for example), it deletes the 'switch off' audio from the background track and re-adjusts one of the other 'projector running' audio clips to compensate for the lost time and deletes the switch off clip off the end, rather than just leaving the audio track as I originally arranged it. A similar audio re-arrangement occurs whatever video clip I choose to delete from the timeline.


Does that make sense? Perhaps it's something to do with all the audio clips coming from one source file?

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Nov 15, 2018 4:28 PM in response to Community User

The "switch off" audio clip is being deleted because it is attached to the video clip that you deleted. Deleting a video clip deletes audio clips that are attached to it. The attachment is a little blue handle that you can see.


Before deleting the video clip, put your cursor on the attached audio clip and, while pressing down on your mouse or track pad, pull the audio clip down to the lowest audio track well until you see the attachment handle pull away from the audio clip. Now when you delete the video clip the audio clip will not be deleted.


Also, you can move the attachment point by selecting the audio clip and, while holding down the Option and Command keys (or maybe it's just the Option key) , then clicking along the audio clip. The attachment handle connection point will move to where ever you clicked. The idea is to move the attachment handle off of the video clip you are deleting.


Lastly, the preferred work flow is to edit your video clips before adding your audio clips. That avoids a lot of sync problems.


I hope that the above addresses your issue.


-- Rich

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Nov 17, 2018 9:50 AM in response to Rich839

Hi Rich,


Thanks for taking the time to look into this in detail.


I see you are experiencing the expected behaviour. With this in mind I tried making another movie with different video and an audio in arrangement much like your test. Sure enough it worked this time and the background audio was unaffected by editing the video.


Going back to my original movie, I tried some further testing. Interestingly I discovered this phenomenon is only occurring with that particular stock 'projector' audio file. If I swap the audio out for clips from another file, it behaves as expected.


In term of software I am using iMovie 10.1.1 and Yosemite 10.10.5. Unfortunately I am stuck with this set-up for the time being because I have other important software that will only run on this operating system. With reference to the movie construction method, I was always adding the video first, then the audio. In an effort to simplify my explanation I reversed things in my description, sorry for any confusion but just wanted to rule that out as a potential source of error.


I think we might have to write this off as an anomaly, unless the behaviour can be replicated consistently in another situation. It sounds like you were starting to experience something similar with the audio clip durations, but no obvious reason why it was occurring.

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Nov 17, 2018 9:58 AM in response to Community User

It is indeed a curious behavior. Perhaps someone will stumble across the answer and post it.


As you have found, it might be related to differences between audio clips. You might want to compare the clips that worked and the clips that didn't work, as to format, sample rate, and so on, and see if you can determine any correlations.


Best,


-- Rich

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