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IPad Pro 2018 (11”) Smartkeyboard not working on airplanes

Purchased the new iPad Pro 11” with smartkeyboard. I noticed on my first trip that the keyboard stopped working in flight. When I landed, the Smart Keyboard immediately started to work again.


I just took another flight and experienced the same.


I further noticed that the issues were only when we were at higher altitudes. During our preparation for landing and we had returned to lower altitudes the keyboard started to work again.


Did not experience the same behavior with my previous first generation iPad Pro 9.7” with Smart Keyboard.


Thoughts? Altitude? Cabin pressure?

iPad Pro 11-inch, Cellular, iOS 12.1

Posted on Nov 26, 2018 8:14 AM

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Nov 27, 2018 2:02 PM in response to dwk106

Hello dwk106,

Thank you for using Apple Support Communities.

I see that you have an interesting issue with your iPad Pro and Smart Keyboard not working when using them on a flight. My first thoughts are the suggested steps in the "Get help" section of the following support article:

Use your Smart Keyboard Folio or Smart Keyboard with iPad Pro

Get help

If your iPad Pro doesn't detect your Smart Keyboard Folio or Smart Keyboard or you see an "Accessory not supported" alert on your iPad Pro, make sure there's no debris or plastic covering on the Smart Connector pins on the keyboard or the Smart Connector on the iPad Pro. Also, try these steps:

  1. Make sure that your iPad Pro and Smart Keyboard Folio or Smart Keyboard are in the Type position and that you have the latest version of iOS.
  2. Remove the Smart Keyboard Folio or Smart Keyboard from your iPad Pro.
  3. Restart your iPad Pro.
  4. Reconnect the Smart Keyboard Folio or Smart Keyboard.
Best regards.

Mar 11, 2019 3:59 AM in response to dwk106

To everyone here.

You are all just posting among yourself here.

Apple is NOT being made aware of anything here.

No one from Apple knows that the new iPad Pros are having this issue.


There is no one in ANY of these Apple Support Communities from any Apple product teams, here.

Cognizant or responsible Apple product teams, designers and engineers do not read, nor participate in these, largely Apple product user to user technical support communities.

Cognizant Apple teams do not monitor these Apple user support communities, either!

I and others, in these Apple product support communities, are simply Apple product users, just like you, that volunteer our own time and knowledge here.

Apple supplies these product support communities for Apple product users to work out their product issues and share technical product knowledge with other fellow users, BUT these community forums ARE monitored/moderated by Apple Support Community Staff and content moderators, as well as Apple Community Technical Support Staff Product Specialists, assigned, specifically, to these community forums, but I do not think any specific user posted info, issues and/or feature requests/changes is ever passed on to who/mever the cognizant parties are who would need to know if there are any mounting issues or changes needed with any Apple products or software.

These ASC ONLY moderators and staffers, due to Apple privacy policies, do not forward any info contained/obtained from ANY postings within these communities to any cognizant Apple staff, teams or individuals.


The only way to get Apple to, DIRECTLY, listen to you is to use their feedback portion of their website.


iPad Feedback


http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html


Cognizant Apple employees read ALL feedback generated from all of the various feedback pages and transfers the data to the proper and responsible Apple teams and personnel, but NO Apple employees will ever respond with any type of direct, individual replies from the feedback you post.


The more users that post product feedback about any product issue, the faster Apple is made aware and starts working on a fix/solution for a future software update.


Also, you may want to phone contact Apple, directly in Cupertino, California, and calmly talk to an Apple customer service employee about this issue via the link below.


Contact - How to Contact Us - Apple



Good Luck to You All!


Nov 28, 2018 4:47 AM in response to MoonJ.

Thanks for the reply. I had tried all of the basics.


The problem goes away as the plane is in its descent without my having to do anything.


During the planes ascent I receive an error that the Accessory is not supported and then the Smart Keyboard stops working until we have descended far enough.

Dec 4, 2018 3:47 PM in response to dwk106

Took a few flights and it’s been a very “reliable” issues. It works when taxing and ascending, and fails completely near and at cruising altitude. It will regain functionality once the plane is close to the ground and on the ground. This has been true for different airplanes, going over large swath of water and land, as in the Pacific and the N. American and Asian continents. Very frustrating. And spend at least 4 hours on chats and calls with Apple. And they are utterly unhelpful on this. Need an engineer review.

Dec 7, 2018 11:34 AM in response to hellojue

I’ve now encountered the same issue with my iPad Pro (11”) and Smart Keyboard on my last four flights. No issues at all in routine daily use at ground level, but consistent issues when at higher altitude on flights. I will also be reporting the same to Apple Support ... hoping for some resolution, but of course the ability to reproduce in a regular setting (i.e., the Apple Store) is nonexistent.

Dec 11, 2018 6:13 AM in response to rwillers

Quick update: I reached out to Apple Support last week on this issue and they initially asked that I update to iOS 12.1.1, which I did, but I of course had to wait for my next flight to test again. I flew again yesterday and observed the exact same issue again.


After communicating the same to Apple Support, I was informed that “the operating altitude for the iPad Pro was tested up to 10,000 feet. This would mean the iPad and Smart Keyboard are functioning as expected. That can be found under "Environmental Requirements" here: https://apple.co/22Fh6m4“.


This is unreasonable on its face from my perspective. Pressurized, commercial air travel is a different environment than, for example, high-altitude mountaineering and it is not relevant to directly compare these environments. Moreover, my understanding is that most (all?) commercial aircraft are pressurized to an equivalent altitude that is lower than 10,000 feet. I have provided this feedback to Apple, but currently do not have any clear next steps.

Dec 11, 2018 6:47 AM in response to rwillers

Whilst your iPad may be certified by Apple as fully functional to an equivalent pressure altitude of 10,000’, the Smart Keyboard may have different specifications.


Without knowing the exact construction of the keyboard, we may only guess upon the likely cause - but it is highly likely that the keys use something other than a simple butterfly-spring to control key travel. If the keyboard uses a closed-cell foam, or similar, this will be affected by cabin pressure.

Dec 11, 2018 2:31 PM in response to rwillers

Helpful. I agree this is unreasonable as operating within a pressurized commercial aircraft is a controlled environment. As they positioning the iPad Pro as a device for the working professional being able to utilize the Smart Keyboard while traveling is a core requirement.


My first gen 9.7 iPad Pro with Smart Keyboard worked on commercial airplanes, I would expect the same of the newer generations.

Jan 19, 2019 7:43 PM in response to dwk106

I also had this same issue manifesting in the same manner: keyboard is fine on the ground and then only at peak altitude is completely inoperable.


I took mine in to the local Apple Store and at first they told me that the operating altitude limit is 10k feet. I can’t believe that applies to planes. I checked and the MacBook Pro has the same limit. Everyone uses their devices on planes. I’ve never had anything fail during a flight before. Not to mention, the Smart Folio Keyboard on the iPad Pro is a pretty expensive accessory.


Still, after some discussion they agreed to replace it. Remains to be seen if this keyboard will have the same issue during flights or not.

Jan 20, 2019 5:26 AM in response to dwk106

What is interesting is that, legally, all commercial airline cabins must be pressurised to a pressure altitude of 8000’ or less.


As such, products that are designed to operate at 10,000’ or less have a significant “operational” margin that should, theoretically, ensure that pressure sensitive components continue to function within specification at all phases of flight - regardless of the cruising altitude at which the airline may be flying...

Mar 11, 2019 1:47 AM in response to YKubo

I have this same problem and I have checked it during 6 consecutive transatlantic Delta flights. On all flights the keyboard stops functioning at high altitude. I never had this problem with my previous iPad Pro and I frequently edit documents on the iPad whilst flying. It is disconcerting that I now need to take my old iPad on flights and this is something that Apple should address.

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