Transfer playlists to iPod without duplicating? (songs are already on iPod)

I often create big playlists in iTunes for friends and for parties we have etc and I want to transfer these to my iPod. When I transfer the songs to my iPod it obviously copies the files to it, the thing is that I already have these songs on the iPod, just not in this playlist, so I don't want to duplicate these songs when transfering a playlist. I don't want to have to create the playlist again on the iPod itself as this would take forever (most of these playlists have 60+ tracks from as many different albums). Is there a way of transfering the playlist info to the iPod so it creates a new playlist from the tracks that are already on it (my iPod has the exact same library as my iTunes) like you can in iTunes by exporting and importing playlist files on different computers?
I realise I could auto update the whole ipod but this would take forever!
Does this make sense to anyone?
Cheers.

PowerBook G4 1.5GHz, Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Posted on Mar 7, 2007 12:42 PM

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Mar 7, 2007 12:57 PM in response to Joe Hall

Playlists are nothing more than lists. The music files on your iPod will only be copies over ONE TIME, then you can make as many playlists pointing to those files as you like. For example, you can create a playlist with the same song 100 times. Song is on iPod once. Or you can create a 100 different playlists with one song the same in all of them. That song is on the iPod once.
So go nuts and make as many playlists as you like.
Patrick

Mar 21, 2007 7:48 AM in response to Joe Hall

No Joe, it only copies the list, NOT the songs. All the songs are kept in the music library on the ipod. Playlists are just lists of songs from that main library. The songs don't exist more than once. However, if you have a playlist that contains a song that isn't on the ipod, then that song will be added to the main music library of the ipod too.

Get it?

Basically, it's what Patrick said, but I guess you didn't understand it.

Say you have a bowl of fruit with 3 apples 4 oranges and 1 banana and you and 2 friends each make a list of which fruit they'd like to eat from that bowl. You might say 2 apples and 1 orange. Friend 1 says 3 apples 1 orange and 1 banana. Friend 2 says 2 apples 2 oranges and 1 banana. Now in total, that makes 7 apples, 4 oranges and 2 bananas. But we know that the lists are just lists, they're not really fruit themselves. See?

Mar 21, 2007 10:19 AM in response to Joe Hall

If you select your iPod in iTunes and click the Music tab, you can choose which playlists you want to copy to the iPod. But the other posters are correct — copying a playlist will not cause the songs to be re-copied to the iPod, unless the songs have changed since the last time they were copied (new album art, say). And if that happens, the old ones'll just be overwritten on the iPod.

My iPod contains all of my playlists, but only one copy of each track. I.e., the music library on my computer is almost exactly the same size as the one on my iPod. If each playlist had a unique copy of each song, it wouldn't all fit on my iPod!

Also: if all of your music is already on your iPod, it shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes to sync the iPod, in which case all of your playlists will show up just fine. The only reason it would copy the songs again is if your iTunes tracks are different from your iPod tracks — new artwork, newly updated for gapless playback, edited fields, etc. If that's the case, letting it sync for a long time once will then enable you to sync quickly in the future.

Mar 23, 2007 12:06 PM in response to jere7my

Thanks. You're right not all these tracks are being duplicated but some definately are. I guess it must be to do with artwork etc. I totally get the principle of what everyone is saying - I'm a smart guy and I have been using iTunes since day 1 and have lots of iPod experience so I'm no newcommer, I was simply just saying what I was seeing happen.
Thanks

PowerBook G4 1.5GHz, iBook G3, Powermac G4 Mac OS X (10.4.9) iPods: gen 1,2,3,4,5, mini gen 2, shuffle gen 2. Canon XM2, EOS 350D. LaCie various 1TB

Mar 23, 2007 9:40 PM in response to Joe Hall

Didn't mean to suggest you were a newbie; it just wasn't clear from your post that something was awry. If there are duplicate files on your iPod, there might be slight variations between the fields, or there might be something wrong somewhere.

Either way, just let your iPod auto-sync. That should delete all of the tracks currently there, and replace them with the library on your computer. If you still end up with duplicates, either you have dups in your iTunes library, or something is wrong somewhere and you should Restore your iPod.

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